Yes Sir Mr. Edge , The "Creed "is a Great target round. No Question about that. Really , However I'm convinced a round developed 3/4 of a century ago, by simply necking down a case developed in 1906 may also show good results , and compete with the new Computer Generated , Ultra Engineered , super star target round of 2020. The 150 Grn Accubond Long Range Bullets, seem to show great promise, at .270 Win Velocities.... and I have not even fired the 170 Grn Berger Bullets yet. On the other hand the same Companies who spent years developing the 6.5 Creedmoor, have already brought out a new line of Ammo and Rifles in 6.5 PRC , with an even larger case capacity than the Creed . Some might say an IMPROVEMENT ,over the first offering???!!!