Berger Bullets

That would be a seriously long bullet.
OR use tungsten and copper coat. Just an idea?
Likely need a 1:7 for that, can be done but it's not popular in the market that is for sure. Also how about being able to actually get some of the bullets they already offer.
Possibly 6 or faster. If sierra 90 or 95gr needs a 6.5T those 26cal bullets are gunna need something faster.
 
Likely need a 1:7 for that, can be done but it's not popular in the market that is for sure. Also how about being able to actually get some of the bullets they already offer.
I already did a twist rate, BC. .700, Cal 264, Wt. 175g., Lenth 1.580, Vel. 3000 FPS, 8 Twist, Temp 59 Degree, Altitude 1240
 
A 156 is plenty of bullet weight in 6.5mm. Very few chamberings could take advantage of them excpet maybe a .264 WM, 26 Nosler, or 6.5-.300Wby, and ZERO current rifles or hardly zero barrel twists would support them. You would need at least a 1:7" to optimize them.

If you want a 170+, go to a .277 or .284.
I already did a twist rate, BC. .700, Cal 264, Wt. 175g., Lenth 1.580, Vel. 3000 FPS, 8 Twist, Temp 59 Degree, Altitude 1240
At these numbers, I only get a stability factor of 1.51. Stable. but....

If Berger states the 156 needs a minimum twist rate of 1:8" (note MINIMUM, not OPTIMAL), I would highly doubt a 170 Elite/Hyb/VLD would need less than 1:7.5" MINIMUM, and 1:7" would probably be more realistic for a wide range of shooting conditions.

The 156 Elite is 1.510" long, and the 140 Elite is 1.40" long. Seems like a 170 would be about 1.60" long. 3000fps would be a big case speed. Like the .264WM/26 Nosler/6.5-.300Wby number. 1:8" would be marginal for a lot of hunters. a 175 would probably be closer to 1.62+" long. Making it a stability factor of 1.41 in a 1:8". Marginal.

That would be a game crusher though, as SD would be off the charts. But would take a lot more to outrun a 156 at a higher velocity.

Looking at numbers:
Typical late elk hunt, 35* and 6500'.
To maintain 1800fps and 1500ft/lbs minimum:
1:7.5" twist
156 @ 3066fps = 940 yards 1496ft/lbs, 2078fps remaining, 168" drop (this is my actual 6.5SS hunting load)
170 @ 2950fps = 940 yards 1498ft/lbs, 1992fps remaining, 183" drop (hypothetical speed based on what I have observed with a lot of testing between differing bullet weights in 6.5mm)

If you want to throw deer in there, drop minimum requirements to 1800fps and 1000ft/lbs:
140 Hyb @ 3156fps = 1210 yards 1801fps, 1008ft/lbs
156 Elite @ 3066fps = 1250 yards 1800fps, 1120ft/lbs
170 Hypo @ 2950fps = 1160 yards 1800fps, 1222ft/lbs
 
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