6.5 Creedmore

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by texan79, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. texan79

    texan79 Well-Known Member

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    Ok, lots of buzz on this round in my area. Hornady is pushing it hard, and a local smith sings its praises too. From the published data, I am not ballistically impressed.

    Anyone have any imput and experience with it? Seems like a great deer round, but I'm not buying the Hornady hype of "everything in North America".
     
  2. car2go4

    car2go4 Well-Known Member

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    if your not a re-loader, its the only way to go. super accurate match ammo (<.40moa) at little over a dollar ($1.1) and the brass sells quickly for $.55-.60
     

  3. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    There are Lot's of good 6.5s to choose from. so look at the ballistics and decide what is best for you.

    The 260 rem is a 308 necked down and will out perform most of the short 6.5s and is very accurate
    with proper smithing. (As is most other 6.5s).

    The 6.5x47 Lapua is another good one.

    If you want all out velocity from the 6.5 you can go to any long action 6.5 .

    You are right not to be talked into the perfect cartrige for everything. (It doesn't exist)

    If you want a 6.5 look at what you want it to do and then look at the ballistics of all the
    6.5s available and decide which is best for your needs.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  4. BillR

    BillR Well-Known Member

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    The main reason for the 6.5 Creedmore is its ability to work through a short action and still have the bullet seated long whereas the .260 Rem has a hard time doing this. Put the .260 Rem into a long action and problem goes away. Its all a matter of what action your wishing to build on.
     
  5. J E Custom

    J E Custom Well-Known Member

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    I see what your talking about and agree, but I changed directions a few years ago to avoid
    all of the issues with mag length and bullets seated long and found that with proper chambering
    and standard bullet seating, an extended mag was not nessary in order to get good velocity
    and accuracy.

    Most of the new High pressure/velocity cartriges have lots of free bore and in order to make
    them shoot well some changes in philosophy was nessary.

    I no longer design/build rifles around a certain bullet,special seating depth,extended magazine,
    special neck diameter and other special things. and have found that the standard cartriges can be
    made to shoot extremely accurate.

    I'm not trying to talk anyone out of doing any of these things , just saying that with all of the
    new components and tools for reloading that are available we no longer have to modify cartriges
    in order to make them shoot well.

    If a person wants velocity, case capacity is the way to get it. seating the bullets long does not
    increase case capacity as much as simply going to a larger case seated to the standard mag
    length.

    When trying to get the "Most" out of a case an extended mag will help but only if there are special needs.

    Not trying to start an argument just trying to offer some options to the original poster who stated
    that he was not impressed with the shorter cases (Apparently he would like a little more velocity).
    In a short action.

    J E CUSTOM
     
  6. Mikecr

    Mikecr Well-Known Member

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    I can't imagine anyone seating long for velocity. We seat where accuracy is best.
    Magazine length comes into play when using high BC bullets, which are long.

    The 6.5CM is a good mid-range(by design) cartridge. I'm sure it has plenty of killing energy at ~600yds.
    It is already known to be very accurate.
    I hear the brass is good.

    If stepping up to the 260, might as well improve it(260AI), to get all it's potential.
    Of coarse you can keep going upward, but remember nothing is free.
     
  7. 270winshort

    270winshort Well-Known Member

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    any of the three 6.5 would be good I have tried all three and for me I was not happy with the hornady brass, so with that in mind I would go with the 6.5X47 first, the reason I like it better is the brass and its great barrel life I have shot deer out to 720 with the 130 berger and it pounded them, you can also get 260 rem in lapua brass now if you like the idea of a little more velocity any of those three are great choices but for me I really like the lapua brass. I shoot the 130 bergers at 2920 fps and the 123 amax at 3010 fps in my 6.5X47 good luck on the build.

    opinions are like butts everybodys got one
     
  8. Mikecr

    Mikecr Well-Known Member

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    I concede to 270winshort
    I heard wrong on brass quality(just googled it).
     
  9. Dalebow

    Dalebow Well-Known Member

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    what would be the best twist rate for a barrel for the Hornady factory ammo 120grain superformance?
     
  10. chas3stix

    chas3stix Well-Known Member

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    According to the Lilja barrel twist rate chart 1 in 10" should work for a .264 caliber bullet that weighs 120 grains.
    Chas
     
  11. Dalebow

    Dalebow Well-Known Member

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    Thank you so much
     
  12. Limbic

    Limbic Well-Known Member

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    The fact that Lapua makes 260 brass (as well as 6.5x47) pretty much solves the problem.