308 Win vs 6.5 Creedmoor

What about matching velocities for comparison! Not a single bullet in 26 or 30cal is near comparing on bc. Not many 30cal 130's have a boat-tail. 150's in both cals are bc's apart by a lot! Do you scrap all of that and start with m.e. or just matching fps? Under 600 I'd take the 308! For those who thinks 308 has more recoil than the 6.5, then try a different gun. My cousin's husband has never liked the recoil of the 308, so he shoots 7-08. I changed his mind! I built an AR with m118 chamber 22" 11T for him to shoot. Using m80 and 180 soft-points he was very surprised about the lack of recoil. AR's are easy to tune out recoil for sure!
 
Valley Fever said:
If you're hunting, at three hundred and under use either one. Over three hundred, 75% of the people on this forum shouldn't be taking a shot on game animals. JMO.

(I include myself in the 75%)
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Her first Buck…was over 300. This is a long range hunting forum and there are some crazy good guys on here which I try to learn from.

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She routinely shoots past 800.
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ARlife4me said:
What about matching velocities for comparison! Not a single bullet in 26 or 30cal is near comparing on bc. Not many 30cal 130's have a boat-tail. 150's in both cals are bc's apart by a lot! Do you scrap all of that and start with m.e. or just matching fps? Under 600 I'd take the 308! For those who thinks 308 has more recoil than the 6.5, then try a different gun. My cousin's husband has never liked the recoil of the 308, so he shoots 7-08. I changed his mind! I built an AR with m118 chamber 22" 11T for him to shoot. Using m80 and 180 soft-points he was very surprised about the lack of recoil. AR's are easy to tune out recoil for sure!
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That would totally defeat the strong points of every bullet you tested minus the slowest.
 
Only if you compare 140s vs 180s.

Compare best in class for both at velocities reached.

I did in my post and by just a touch .1 mil the 308 with 215 beat out the 6.5 140. That was a 20" barrel.

Comparing 140s with 180s is not a fair comparison.
 
My daughter 496 yds on her antelope with my 25-06 and her blacktail buck was 448 yds with her 20" barrel 7mm-08. Each animal one shot, one kill. Girl can shoot! 115 Ballistic Tips in the 25-06 at 3200 and 131 Hammer Hunters in the 7mm-08 at 2820. Similar to what a 308 can do. She ranges, adjust for drop and shoots. We practice out to 800 yds on the regular.
 

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Raudy707 said:
My daughter 496 yds on her antelope with my 25-06 and her blacktail buck was 448 yds with her 20" barrel 7mm-08. Each animal one shot, one kill. Girl can shoot! 115 Ballistic Tips in the 25-06 at 3200 and 131 Hammer Hunters in the 7mm-08 at 2820. Similar to what a 308 can do. She ranges, adjust for drop and shoots. We practice out to 800 yds on the regular.
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Outstanding! Great hunting. 👍 I wish I could make such shots. Way to go young lady! No amount of soap could remove that grin 😁 😉 . Stay safe and have fun.
 
Reloder 17 with Berger 210 VLD hunters make a great combo in the 308 if you want to experiment with heavies and don't mind single feeding. I use 47.7 grains loaded to 2.932" and get a hair under 2700 out of a 26" 10 twist Mullerworks barrel and Lapua brass. Very accurate with low SD's, but more recoil. I don't use the 210's often, but they do smack the steel noticeably harder than my 6.5x47 with 140 class bullets at all distances I've shot them to. I imagine they would be pretty effective on game, too.
 
Shane Lindsey said:
Haven't shot the 215s with it 6.5 Staball yet. 200gr Sierra Game Kings-settled at 48gr. Pressure was at 48.5gr before I got ejector marks in FC cases. Did a seating test. Next will be velocity (mag speed). These are .020" off the lands at 2.850" COAL.

FWIW 215s and Rl16 were at 3.058" COAL at .004" off the lands. May try 6.5 Staball when the 215s show up a little more often.
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Sorry. I meant the 200 gr SGKs. Thanks for the info. I will try SB6.5 with our 195 gr BD2 whose BC is comparable to the 215 Berger.
 
Raudy707 said:
Nralirer over the past 25 years I too have gone to the 308 win. Which is crazy because I started my deer hunting career with a 25-06. Really fast, really flat. Then something really strange happened when I started guiding and seeing animals get killed. You get to see first hand hundreds of animals get shot. And 99% of those shots are under 500 yds. In the guiding world I'm guessing 75% of shots were not perfect placement. But if they were shot with a 30 cal hole we were able to track and recover the animals. Not so much with the smaller calibers. 308 pros are number one for me it kills better. Ammo availability and cost, 308. Barrel life, 308. Inherit accuracy prob a tie. Brass and reloading components 308. And that is probably due to the popularity of the 6.5 but there is less on the shelves. I have a 6.5 Creed and had a PRC. Advantage for them is gonna be lighter recoil for the Creed I notice no difference from the 308 and PRC. Biggest advantage is past 600 yds. If you are going to shoot a lot of paper and steel 600 yds and beyond the 6.5 has the advantage here. Hype...6.5 definitely wins that trophy. For a nuts and bolts hunting rifle out to 600 yds from Javelina to Moose give me a 308!
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Totally agree. Though not a guide, I spend countless hours annually tracking deer for a large number of hunters. I hate wasting hunting time tracking another hunter's animal, but I feel a duty to help. Ive seen too many well-placed, small bore shots allow an animal to get "lost" with minimal if any blood trail. That doesn't happen near as much with 7mm and even less with 30 cal. Ive been hunting over 50 years and those older hunters among us appreciate responsible choices when selecting a cartridge for game one expects to recover.
 
I don't see the need for a versus argument here, unless you are absolutely, positively, 100% a one-gun person. I doubt anyone on this forum is, I could be wrong. If you are, you either need (from a hunting standpoint) the extra thump at times (i.e., elk, moose, hunting big bears or in bear country) or you don't. Remember big guns can always be loaded down to increase their versatility. If you're a 2 or more-gun guy, buy them both, or find cartridges that are more in line with specific hunting styles and/or species.
 

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