25-06 VS 270 Win

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Sully2, May 9, 2013.

  1. Sully2

    Sully2 Well-Known Member

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    25-06 ( AI actually) w/120 grain slug at 3050 FPS

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    270 w/130 grain slug at 3050 FPS.

    Large mule deer and down sized animals..NOT elk etc....is either one of these cartridges going to really over shadow the other?
     
  2. Sully2

    Sully2 Well-Known Member

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    No comments huh???
     

  3. idaho elk hunter

    idaho elk hunter Well-Known Member

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    I own and have used/reloaded for both. Never have had a animal walk away from either when hit hard. If I had to choose between the two I would DEFINITELY go with the 270. Load it up with rl 17 and a 140 gr pill and the 25 cal isn't in the same league. We went on a African safari back in 09 and a man used a 225-06 on a KUDU. I was wounded and had to be finished off with a larger cal..338 that is. the 25 really did a job for the first 6 inches and then stopped. The 338 at 265 yds blew right through. Point being made is shoot the largest caliber you can handle and be accurate with.
     
  4. TOM H

    TOM H Well-Known Member

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    You already have the 25-06AI so is the velocity you post from that rifle. I have to ask same question about the 270.

    I don't own a 25-06 or 25-06AI but do own a 270 and it's one of my deer/antelope rifles. I like 140/150 gr bullets and I'd be pretty disappointed if I loaded 130gr @ 3050fps as can get over 3100fps with 140gr Barnes bullet. I got pretty nice 4x4 mulie 3rd rifles season last year with 270 and it's one of my 3 groove Lilja barrel rifles.
     
  5. 300 ultra

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    You could do the same thing but throw in the 30-06 shooting 150 gr bullets at 3050. I've had this same thought as I have a 25-06,270 and a 30-06. No one wants to talk about the 30-06 anymore because its Vanilla.
     
  6. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    If you want a whitetail hammer in a 1/4 bore, have you checked out the .257 Wby Mag? I love mine. .25-06 AI is an awesome round.

    Never liked the .270 Win for some reason. I really have no good reasoning for it, just never had a desire to own one. Same goes for a .30-06 Sprg. Just never had the desire to own one of them either.
     
  7. RT2506

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    I have shot LOTS of white tail deer with both the 25-06 and 270 and there ain't no flies on either. Use the proper bullet and put it in the proper place and they both are killers. I prefer the 25-06 with 117 Sierra Pro Hunter bullets for my deer hunting.
     
  8. Edd

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    What's your definition of "over shadow".

    The main difference in your examples will be energy. The 270 will have almost as much energy at 350 yards as the 25-06 has at 250 yards. I'd consider that a substantial advantage.
     
  9. Sully2

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    Overshadow is where one cartridge kills like lightening and the other is noted to wound more than anything.

    As far as the second part of your post goes...all I can say is that I seriously doubt that!

    Except for the 250 yard mark....the 270 runs about 200 ft lbs MORE energy as plotted by Hornadys ballistics machinery.
    The 270 has the edge ballistics-wise because of much higher BC in bullets
     
  10. Edd

    Edd Well-Known Member

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    That sounds too subjective to me.

    Doubt if you want, it's just math.

    I wouldn't consider the BC to be a lot higher but it is a little higher and that's part of the reason for the energy difference.

    BTW, how much energy difference it there between 250 yards and 350 yards. Could it be about 200 ft lbs?
     
  11. bigngreen

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    The cartridge your using has zero to do with killing, all it does is propel a bullet the more important question is what bullet you want to use. Personally I use 120 or 130 gr bullets in our 25cals and 140's and 165's in our 270's for what I want to get done.
     
  12. FEENIX

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    As always, shot placement is still the key. The. 270 Win is my choice between the two.
     
  13. Sully2

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    I'll probably be using 120's as the biggest in my 25-06...and not having a 270 at all...if I did Id use 130-140 from what Ive read.

    Never having hunted with either caliber I was just trying to get a feeling from those that have what the apparent "killing power" seemed to be....hence I stipulated NOT anything as large as elk...as an example ( which was meant to intend no sable antelope or wildebeast...etc....Just mule deer and down in size.

    Its been 30 years since I hunted larger animals with a rifle...( 30-06) when at about 200 yds I shot a large doe going away..slightly going up hill and hit her in the right rump,,,,bullet went thru and came out the left foreleg and almost took it completely off. I knew then that men didnt need the caliber of rifles they THOUGHT they needed on USA game!

    Thanks for the input fellas....and Feenix is right....Ya gotta put 'em where it counts.
     
  14. MudRunner2005

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    Who makes a 130gr bullet for a .257 caliber?

    I'm trying to talk Berger into producing a 130 VLD for the .257's, but I doubt they will.

    Currently I'm using 110gr Accubonds and 115 VLD's for my .257 Wby Mag, and they are working great! I have shot game with with 110 AB's, but have not with the 115's yet...100% success rate so far with the 110 AB's. I will keep yall posted later on in the year after I've had a chance to shoot a deer with the 115gr VLD's, when our deer season comes back around.