memtb
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You trying to get our eatin utensils taken also?
As we rapidly become a 3rd world nation……get used to eating with your hands!
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New proposed ATF powder registry
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As we rapidly become a 3rd world nation……get used to eating with your hands!
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lancetkenyon
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I didn't think the ATF could create rules/laws...
memtb
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Not according to our Constitution……but that's never stopped the present administration!
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Where are you buying powder they don't record DL? Every single powder purchase for me in CA in 20 years has been analog recorded.
quigley257
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Fortunately there are still a few free states where you can walk in and buy with cash, no ID needed.
I didn't think the EPA could either, but it seems to happen. I think they call it an ordanance.
I just can't understand why they are trying to fix a problem that really doesn't exist. Making recommendations for safely storing gun powder would make sense, but please focus on the real problems we are facing.
I really feel for people that live in states and cities with heavy handed and over-reaching firearm laws. Some have no feasible choice but to stay in these areas.
I really feel for people that live in states and cities with heavy handed and over-reaching firearm laws. Some have no feasible choice but to stay in these areas.
I can't say for in-store CA purchases of powder; but I usually order powder and primers online and the only extras needed are paying hazmat shipping fee and having an adult sign for delivery. Nothing is registered to my knowledge. Certainly no identification is requested. Loaded ammo purchases are background checked against CA DOJ. I'm glad that you are finding in-store powder in SD. My buddy is there and needs some H4831SC.
I have heard some LGS that are not ordering Black Powder because there is extra paperwork. Goes along with the ATF looking for possible Terrorist using Black Powder to make IEDs.
Home Owners Insurance - I have not heard anything or see anything in our HO Policy that refers to having reloading or ammo in our home and insurance rates increasing.
Now the NFPA does have Codes/Standards for Ammo/Black Powder & Smokeless Powder Storage
NFPA 495
And the ATF gets involved.
www.atf.gov
Home Owners Insurance - I have not heard anything or see anything in our HO Policy that refers to having reloading or ammo in our home and insurance rates increasing.
Now the NFPA does have Codes/Standards for Ammo/Black Powder & Smokeless Powder Storage
NFPA 495
NFPA 495: Explosive Materials Code
<p>1.1 Scope.<br /><br />This code shall apply to the manufacture, transportation, storage, sale, and use of explosive materials.</p>
www.nfpa.org
And the ATF gets involved.
Storage Requirements | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Questions and answers regarding the storage requirements of explosives and explosive materials.
Not to sound like I got a tinfoil hat on, but this is just another way to verify who has firearms. No much reason to have gun powder unless you have a gun.
gohring3006
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I'll store all of my powder in brass.
Lots and lots of brass!!
Lots and lots of brass!!
victor3ranger
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No body seems to be talking about the part of the language that says magazines.
You would think that if they were only concerned about black powder then the word magazine wouldn't be used.
I can't think of any black powder firearms that use a magazine
You would think that if they were only concerned about black powder then the word magazine wouldn't be used.
I can't think of any black powder firearms that use a magazine
"Magazine" means a storage device like a cabinet or vault. If you have a bunch in a bunker under ground, that would be considered a Magazine.No body seems to be talking about the part of the language that says magazines.
You would think that if they were only concerned about black powder then the word magazine wouldn't be used.
I can't think of any black powder firearms that use a magazine
