Bullet selection is driving me nuts....

Red deer taken last week with a 97gr hammer out of a 6.5 grendel.
Went maybe 20 yards have taken things out past 400 with this setup but don't wanna push my luck with suck a little round.
This is good to know. My wife is planning to shoot a red hine this weekend. I recommended she take my 6.5 SAUM over her 6.5x47 Lapua but seems like that may not be necessary.
 
They are kind of hard to find when they run with the bullet still inside them , with a little entry hole and no exit .
I meant I couldn't find Berger bullets, switched to hammer because they had what I want when I want it and they kill cleanly. But nothing bad about the way bergers performed.
 
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You never did mention what caliber and type rifle you were shooting, not that it matters as long as you have a rifle that will shoot MOA or less. I have to admit that I am a 30 caliber buff but also recently looking into the .277 caliber arena. I have a 270 which is way Sub MOA with both 130 and 140 gr ammo either factory or hand loads. I have been able to duplicate the accuracy of factory ammo but not really do much better. What it boils down to is finding a load that your barrel likes. Start with a bullet that will do what you want it to. I am particular to Nosler and Sierra, not something you find popular around in this neck of the woods. I gave up the popular game many years ago and adopted the "What works for my rifle," principle. Select a bullet, any bullet that you think will do whatever it is you want to do. Concentrate on that bullet and your rifle. Try different powder charges from different types of powder, I have always found that the lower velocities per each different powder is a good place to start. Do a ladder starting at the bottom of the reloading data and work up from there. I do my initial ladders at 0.5 grains from minimum and work my way up. When I find a load that my rifle seems to like I back off and start at 0.2 grain powder charges. If warranted I will even go to 0.1 grain charges to determine the one that groups the best. If still not satisfied will try a different powder with the same bullet and repeat the process. Being impatient does not work here. To fine tune your rifle it may take several tries. I have had cases where, keeping in mind that I am dealing with 30 caliber in 308 an 30-06 when I have had to try different bullets, powder types and charges before wandering onto the combination that shoots sub MOA all the time. It takes time and practice as well as a lot of shooting to find the ammo that your rifle, (Not you) likes and shoots consistently well. Patience my friends. It takes patience to find that one load. Once you find it you can vary a bit to try to improve on it, change bullets keeping in mind that any time you change a major component you are essentially starting over from scratch.
 
I feel like a dog chasing its tail. Lol

I have always been a Nosler Ballistic Tip guy and they have done very well for me, but I have been wanting to step up my long range game for hunting so I have been researching bullets with a better BC and maybe that holds up better on game, because it's seems that is what everyone is talking about now right..... But it seems that just when I think I have found one that I will try then I find all these bad reviews, which I know, obviously, no matter what you research you will find issues. I also know I am way over thinking this, as I do with most things in life, and I should just pick something and go with it.

I thought I had decided on Barnes LRX, yea I know, there BC is not good, but lots of folks rave about Barnes bullets and this is there long range bullet. So I tried it them out this year and wasn't overly impressed.

So I thought ok, I love Nosler bullets, I'm looking for good BC, something that holds together well, so I'll try the accubond long range. Well crude, there are more bad reviews on them than good.

In all my research it seems like Berger bullets always come up. Yes there are some bad reviews, but when I dig into them, it seems that most are blaming it on a plugged tip, and those that insure the tips are cleaned out, some are even drilling them out, have great luck. What gets me here is it seems lots of people, with seemingly with lots of experience, recommend the target bullets for hunting. What? I even had a very well known and experienced nilgai guide highly recommend 215 Berger Hybrid Target bullets for nilgai over accubonds and Barnes. I trust this guy as he is very successful with his clients who often shoot his rifle with those bullets. And nilgai are probably, IMO, some of the toughest, thickest skinned, animals in North America.

I honestly don't know why I'm rambling on about this, I'm sure most of you are thinking just pick something that shoots great out of my rifle and go with it. But I kinda want to start with a great bullet and go from there.

Anyone else going thru this chasing of the tail trying to pick a hunting bullet?

Any thoughts or recommendations?

Not that it really matters but I'm currently messing with my 7 SAUM, 28 Nosler, and 300 WM.
My opinion on Bergers are target bullets with high b.c. Hunting bullets likes bonded or partitions do not need high BCs at 500 yards. I am sure a person with a 6.5 creedmoor at 800 yds on a berger on a elk. Target and hunting bullets are not the them cat.
 
I am sure a person with a 6.5 creedmoor at 800 yds on a berger on a elk. Target and hunting bullets are not the them cat.
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I'll ring steel with Bergers and DRT critters with Hammers, Amax, and Barnes. I've made it my hunting career goal to find a Hammer bullet failure. I'll try them all, some multiple times until I get that failure. Promise! 🤪
 
I feel like a dog chasing its tail. Lol

I have always been a Nosler Ballistic Tip guy and they have done very well for me, but I have been wanting to step up my long range game for hunting so I have been researching bullets with a better BC and maybe that holds up better on game, because it's seems that is what everyone is talking about now right..... But it seems that just when I think I have found one that I will try then I find all these bad reviews, which I know, obviously, no matter what you research you will find issues. I also know I am way over thinking this, as I do with most things in life, and I should just pick something and go with it.

I thought I had decided on Barnes LRX, yea I know, there BC is not good, but lots of folks rave about Barnes bullets and this is there long range bullet. So I tried it them out this year and wasn't overly impressed.

So I thought ok, I love Nosler bullets, I'm looking for good BC, something that holds together well, so I'll try the accubond long range. Well crude, there are more bad reviews on them than good.

In all my research it seems like Berger bullets always come up. Yes there are some bad reviews, but when I dig into them, it seems that most are blaming it on a plugged tip, and those that insure the tips are cleaned out, some are even drilling them out, have great luck. What gets me here is it seems lots of people, with seemingly with lots of experience, recommend the target bullets for hunting. What? I even had a very well known and experienced nilgai guide highly recommend 215 Berger Hybrid Target bullets for nilgai over accubonds and Barnes. I trust this guy as he is very successful with his clients who often shoot his rifle with those bullets. And nilgai are probably, IMO, some of the toughest, thickest skinned, animals in North America.

I honestly don't know why I'm rambling on about this, I'm sure most of you are thinking just pick something that shoots great out of my rifle and go with it. But I kinda want to start with a great bullet and go from there.

Anyone else going thru this chasing of the tail trying to pick a hunting bullet?

Any thoughts or recommendations?

Not that it really matters but I'm currently messing with my 7 SAUM, 28 Nosler, and 300 WM.

My preference is Bergers. You mentioned your wanna work on your LR game or atleast have a bullet that capable of making hits at extended ranges. If that's the case then the BC absolutely matters. If you're gonna be hunting <600 than BC isn't an issue. Grab a hammer or whatever, run it fast and do your deal.

Lotta folks hunting effectively with Bergers. They're great bullets. My buddy whacked his elk at 968 yards with a 168gn Berger Elite Hunter out of his 7RM. DRT. Not even a step.

I'd recommend finding some Berger Elite Hunters and getting after it. You won't be sorry. Lotta great hunting bullets out there if you're gonna be shooting game within 600. Past that, There's other factors that come into play in choosing a proper bullet. BC being one of them.

I've heard great things about the Badlands Bulldozer 2's as well. High BC, solids. They would be worth taking a look at, but the easy button is Bergers EH's IMO. Hybrids seem to work really well as well. I run 180gn Hybrids in my 7RM, 185gn Juggernauts I'm my 308 and buddies are runing 215gn Hybrids in their big 30's.
 
If you like Nosler the Accubond will serve you well, even out to long range. What's more, they're often the same BC as the same weight Ballistic Tip bullet and shoot to the same point of impact for all hunting purposes.
 
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