Nosler releases 27 Nosler and more

[Kaptoe]

I love my 257 wby and would definitely give some thought to a 25 nosler. I get 3600 without Max loads in. 26" tube from the wby. That case capacity has to make 3800 a reality. I think that has to be a mono Cooper only affair on game. Wouldn't trust bullet construction on anything else

 

[JC in Calif]

So the question with any of them will be barrel life?[/

So the question with any of them will be barrel life?

Just curious. Is barrel life one of your major deciding factors in selecting a rifle/caliber? My focus has always been accuracy and terminal performance (hunting rifle). I haven't worn out many barrels on hunting rifles, unless I used them for other purposes, like varmint hunting.

 

[Web1350]

So we have a 22,26,27,28,30 and 33?

If so, I don't understand it. Seems like too much repetition to me. Wouldn't the 26 or 28 suffice? I can see, in time, one or more of these being discontinued.

 

[Raudy707]

That's awesome news! If manufacturers just sold rifles with fast twist barrels, many older hunting favorites would be revitalized! A 25-06 or 257 Roy with a 131 blackjack would make one heck of a antelope/deer rifle. Even a standard 270 win with a 1:8 twist barrel would make a **** good long range antelope, deer, sheep and bear rifle. Being able to utilize the 160, 165 and 170 grain bullets immediately makes the 270 win a long ranger. It's cool Nosler sees the potential and released their version.

 

[Alibiiv]

Nosler has all so did a 35 Nosler. I'd like to see that one put into productions. Of course we all ready have more cartridges then we realy need and over flooded in some calibers. But it make it a lot of fun.

I really like my 35 Whelen (35 Whelen), it is one of the best cartridges in my safe. It is always dependable, and a very good cartridge for black bear hunting. When I told the last guide that I was using a Whelen he smiled. I asked him the reason for the smile, he said, "Because we don't have to track them!". Many decades ago I had a .358 Norma magnum built on a Win model 70 action, it was extremely accurate, but never got to hunt with it. I am not sure what a 35 Nosler would be like for recoil or for muzzle energy, the Whelen is about all that I care to handle in that department. I am also a .270 Winchester fan, just built a .270 Ackley Improved and have found it to be a little faster than the .270 Weatherby, and.....still working on a load. Good to find others who like the "ole school" cartridges, they certainly are worth comparing them to the "new" school, "super" cartridges that mimic the ole school cartridges.

 

[DesertDweller62]

This thread reminds me of a conservation I had with a Remington official when they released the SAUM cartridges... He told me this: "We don't have new customers to sell our old stuff to, so we invent new stuff to sell to our old customers..." Think about it... DD 62

 

[DJ Fergus]

The 165 ablr would another nice option to the 170 Berger. Hopefully an eldx follows suit. The more options the better in case your barrel is picky.

Vast options for high bc bullets are what makes the 30 cal & 264 so popular. 7mm also has just as many high bc bullet options. I would really like to have a 257 wby but theres not much to fall back on if the one or two high bc bullets in 257 doesn't work.

 

[CVCOBRA1]

Doesn't make any difference what caliber you are talking about, from 22 to 30 these new higher BC and longer bullets are simply out pacing any factory twist rate barrel. To take any full advantage of these new pills one of two things has to happen, re-barrel or buy a complete new rifle. Otherwise just stuff your chambers with whatever "old" stuff was working.

 

[DJ Fergus]

That's awesome news! If manufacturers just sold rifles with fast twist barrels, many older hunting favorites would be revitalized! A 25-06 or 257 Roy with a 131 blackjack would make one heck of a antelope/deer rifle. Even a standard 270 win with a 1:8 twist barrel would make a *Rule 4 Violation* good long range antelope, deer, sheep and bear rifle. Being able to utilize the 160, 165 and 170 grain bullets immediately makes the 270 win a long ranger. It's cool Nosler sees the potential and released their version.

The new cartridges that have been released all have longer freebore for heavies, based on faster twist ( apropriate twist) factory rifles, less case taper, 30-35 degree shoulders, and cases are short enough to seat bullets long & still fit in factory magazines. All of this is really good, it's great, but it's not magic. It just works. It's all about 15 years or more later than it should have been though. Bench rest & wild catters have been doing this for years. Better late than never. Glad the industry went that way.

 

[KRL1116]

Bring on the 25!! I love the .257 wby....its ability is far un recognized! Speed kills !! The 25 Nosler would be awesome! Who cares about barrel life, take care of it and as a dedicated hunting rifle would give you years of pleasure. Then when she's burnt get a new barrel!!!!

 

[DJ Fergus]

Doesn't make any difference what caliber you are talking about, from 22 to 30 these new higher BC and longer bullets are simply out pacing any factory twist rate barrel. To take any full advantage of these new pills one of two things has to happen, re-barrel or buy a complete new rifle. Otherwise just stuff your chambers with whatever "old" stuff was working.

The trouble is that rifles chambered in cartridges like 270 win, 270 wsm in factory form are not saami throated for 170 eol or a 165 ablr nor have nearly enough twist. So If Remington or whoever builds factory rifles in 270 win or wsm with fast 8 twist & long freebore for those two bullets mentioned, it's probably going to be very poor accuracy with 130 grain bullets. All prior 270 cartridges we're solely based to be ideal for 130gr bullets. The 150s had to be shoved deep into the case and are of marginal stability for a 10 twist if they are long higher bc type.

 

[nicholasjohn]

The new cartridges that have been released all have longer freebore for heavies, based on faster twist ( apropriate twist) factory rifles, less case taper, 30-35 degree shoulders, and cases are short enough to seat bullets long & still fit in factory magazines. All of this is really good, it's great, but it's not magic. It just works. It's all about 15 years or more later than it should have been though. Bench rest & wild catters have been doing this for years. Better late than never. Glad the industry went that way.

Benchrest shooters & wildcatters have been showing the industry what they're going to be selling next year FOREVER. Think back to the days before Remington "legitimatized" the 22-250 & 25/06. "Gun nuts" were shooting them anyway, and custom rifle makers were building the rifles for guys who handloaded their own ammunition. These guys were squeezing down surplus military 30-06 brass in their old Rockchucker presses, and going to town with their wildcat cartridges. Now you can buy an off-the-shelf rifle and a box of factory-loads, and go kill a deer with these once-wildcat cartridges, so everybody can get in on the act. This is how it works - then, and now.

 

[68formalGT]

Benchrest shooters & wildcatters have been showing the industry what they're going to be selling next year FOREVER. Think back to the days before Remington "legitimatized" the 22-250 & 25/06. "Gun nuts" were shooting them anyway, and custom rifle makers were building the rifles for guys who handloaded their own ammunition. These guys were squeezing down surplus military 30-06 brass in their old Rockchucker presses, and going to town with their wildcat cartridges. Now you can buy an off-the-shelf rifle and a box of factory-loads, and go kill a deer with these once-wildcat cartridges, so everybody can get in on the act. This is how it works - then, and now.

243 also. I had an extra 243 Pro Hunter barrel that I had turned into a 6mm-284. The smith couldn't do a 240 Weatherby or a 6mm-06 because the case on the 243 doesn't have the taper that the other 2 cases do.

 

[Antonio m]

I don't see a market for it.