Trued actions vs fancy actions

[Rum and not the liquid]

Hi. I'm trying to get my 375 rum done but I'm a bit short dollar wise for an action. What are people's opinions of a re wrorked factory Remington action? will they produce the same accuracy as a custom action providing the gunsmith does it the correct way?

cheers
Lucas

 

[Reload10]

I'd get a Kelbly atlas tactical and call it a day. I bet you're within $150 of having a factory action trued.

 

[Rick Richard]

Hi. I'm trying to get my 375 rum done but I'm a bit short dollar wise for an action. What are people's opinions of a re wrorked factory Remington action? will they produce the same accuracy as a custom action providing the gunsmith does it the correct way?

cheers
Lucas

Answer to your question is YES provided the gunsmith does his job.

 

[dok7mm]

A 700 action can be very accurate, but can need several fixes.

You'll need it blueprinted and possibly the firing pin hole bushed to prevent cratering. Also you may need the bolt handle repositioned to insure primary extraction.

I've had to do some or all on 700 actions in the past, so I would not use another.

 

[Rum and not the liquid]

Thanks guys my second problem is I'm not state side so it's tricky getting a action. I don't know if you've ever heard of true flite or barnard here in nz but judging by their comp record I'd be pretty confident.

 

[Mram10us]

The gunsmith that got me into LR went from high end custom actions to remington 700s that he didn't even true up. He would lap the lugs and they shot great. Don't let it stop you, if you can't afford to true it up.

 

[bdlesh]

I was also trying to make that decision. From what I have learned a 700 action is 400ish and 400.00 to true. The custom is ready to go out of the box for $1000ish. You will need a trigger though. I have decided to spend the extra $$ on this one.

 

[matt_3479]

I've had unworked 700 actions shoot great and one of my best shooting rifles is a tried 700. But after getting into the custom game I'll never go back. The resale, the confidence, the feel, looks and just peace of mind all make it a good reason to go custom.

kelbly atlas tac, zermatt origin, tenacity, are all great and the new Mac bros steel action ischeaper then a 700

 

[MagnumManiac]

You can get a very good action just by doing the minimum to it if all is true from the factory.
All of my comp guns started out as either Rem 700 VSSF II's or Sendero's, as these stainless actions are very good right out of the box.
The VSSF II's both needed more work than the later bought Sendero's, in fact the actions were within .001" on spec to the centreline, the short action VSSF II's had .004" and .005" off the centreline and all surfaces, internal and external needed to be blueprinted.
All of my Comp guns are built as switch barrels and this is what I recommend, whether they are for hunting or comp.
I really like my switch barrels on blueprinted Win Midel 70 actions as well, lightweight and in 3 different cals they are very versatile.

Anyway, I don't think you need a custom action to get a great accurate rifle if the work is done correctly on a factory action.

Cheers.

 

[Hugnot]

A quick job of facing off the front of the receiver ring and lapping in bolt lugs is enough for my casual use.

 

[Rum and not the liquid]

Hey magnum. Yeah it's started life out as sendero and shoots bloody well but I figured if I was building something I'd get it trued and blued.

Cheers
Lucas

 

[J E Custom]

Any action can be accurate if all the surfaces are true to the bore centerline.

Once the action is closed, if it is square and true the rest is up to the barrel, chamber, Load and the shooter.

The quality of the machining of an action is only one part of the accuracy, and yes the remington can be as accurate as any other action. The only difference is in some of the features offered by custom actions and the price.

J E CUSTOM

 

[MagnumManiac]

$400 to true an action in the same fixture?
Wow, I only charge $250 to true up a Rem 700.
$300 for a Win Model 70, $200 to chamber a barrel.
I must be missing something here in Oz.

Cheers.

 

[Tiny Tim]

It all depends on your ultimate design criteria. Customs will hold value better. Cost of "blueprinting" a 700 action is dependant on your definition of blueprinting or the level of action work done. Sleeving the bolt, bushing the firing pin, re-cutting all action contact surfaces, and retiming primary extraction gets expensive. These are far different than simply squaring an action face and lapping the lugs. Personally, if I didn't already have a donor action and wanted more than to true the face and lap lugs, it would be custom every time. It's cheaper and I believe you get a better action right out of the gate.