TC Encore and long range?

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by catwithboost, Dec 7, 2008.

  1. catwithboost

    catwithboost Active Member

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    I have a Encore with a 204 encore barrel and a 300win prohunter barrel I have not got out to shoot it yet.As fas as long range and the TC barrels how are they at long range shoots. Mind you I can reload.gun)PS I will be using a Nikon Buckmaster 4-14x40mm BDC scope on the 300wm and a Bushnell banner 6-18x50mm on the 204. With a Nikon range finder.
     
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  2. long450

    long450 Well-Known Member

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    The 300WM is capable of taking deer sized game out to 600 yards and beyond depending upon bullet choice. I would say that you could take game with it to as far as you can consistently shoot a 6" group. I would guess the 204 Ruger barrel would take coyote size animals out to 300 yards and rock chucks and smaller out a bit longer.
     

  3. catwithboost

    catwithboost Active Member

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    I need to clarify my question.I am asking more towards the TC encore for being accurate with those two rounds not so much the rounds themself.
     
  4. kappajoe

    kappajoe Well-Known Member

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    Not sure about the factory barrels from TC.... but I shot my whitetail buck this year at 467yards with a 6.5x55 barrel from Match Grade Machine.

    Dime size groups @ 100yards
     
  5. James Jones

    James Jones Well-Known Member

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    Just about all the factroy Encoe barrels I've delt with can easly be made to shoot close to the 1 moa range and some down close to the 1/2 moa range.

    The encore can be made to shoot as well as any bolt guns for the first round shot but the gun has to be broken out of battery to reload and that kinda messes with the good grouping Ju-Ju.

    Get a trigger job , replace the hinge pin with a tighter fitting unit and bed the forend.

    I just fitted up a 300 win heavy barrel buled Encore for the guy that owns the bow shop up the road , did all te stuff mentioned above plus recrowned the barrel and installed a Sims recoil pad , his gun will shoot very close to 1/2moa at 200yds with factroy loaded Nosler ammo with the 200gr Accu-Bond.
     
  6. bigmo101

    bigmo101 Well-Known Member

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    Can you still trade out barrels and use the same forend?
     
  7. catwithboost

    catwithboost Active Member

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    Yes you can.
     
  8. hammertyme

    hammertyme Well-Known Member

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    Smith and Wesson have brought the quality of the T/C products up. I haven't purchased a none custum barrel for years now. A good trigger job with a none-binding piller bedded forend and both calibers should be capable of very fine accuracy for any hunting need.
    Kim Monthony is shooting a break open in benchrest competition and is doing very well. Check out Chasemountaincustom.

    Neal
     
  9. 338shooter

    338shooter New Member

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    My experience has been that the T/C barrels are not MOA barrels or even close however; if you order a Bergera barrel for your gun it will be a MOA gun. Bergera consulted Shilen to learn his famous barrel process and it paid huge dividends for them because the barrels are superb. I personally had a factory Pro Hunter 300 WM barrel that was horrible and replaced it with a Bergera 300WM barrel and got 1 MOA accuracy out of it. Read Mike Bellm's website he has a wealth of knowledge on there and that is what gave me the cofidence to keep my Pro Hunter versus selling it. I am in the process of selling my T/C .50 ML barrel to buy a Bergera as well.

    Another Tip - Do a trigger job..........it changes that gun so much that I would not own one without having the trigger worked.
     
  10. Thebear_78

    Thebear_78 Well-Known Member

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    I have found that If you "float" the forends by placing a small rubber oring on the screw between the forend and the barrel it helps keep the barrels from moving POI between swapping out barrels. I have an extremely accurate 22-250 barrel that will do .75" with remington bulk 45gr HP ammo. All of my barrels with do 1.25" groups or better. I have sent a few down the road that wouldn't shoot but most can be fixed up nicely
     
  11. ShootnMathews

    ShootnMathews Well-Known Member

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    My friends TC Prohunter in 300 win mag would not shoot less than 1" with his best shooting hand loads. He traded it at a terrible price lost back to the gunshop for a 7mm mag and it does better but not great. Around 7/8 - 1" with his best loads. He's pretty disappointed. 90% of the shots here are less than 200 yards so he still hunts with it but we love shooting long range and he's not pleased in that aspect at all. The TC's are what I call "TV" guns. Look great on there but not so great on paper. Especially for the $$ they cost.

    He got quite angry one day when we were shooting milk jugs at 482 yards, him with his Prohunter and my $99 Mosin Nagant with hand loads was making his TC look pathetic. Took him from 4-6 shots to hit one and mine was money on every shot.
     
  12. hammertyme

    hammertyme Well-Known Member

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    I have hunted with T/Cs since they came out. I too was very dis-satisfied with not achieving my desired accuracy.

    Anything used to cushion or float the barrel away from the forend was at best a temporary fix. I live in Alaska so when freeze up hits the POI changes. When it thaws and starts raining it changes again.

    I have only this one photo left but one can get the idea by looking at the machined perch in the barrel channels. This black material is extremely hard so no aluminum piller is required.
    Tony Gettel at tony'sforendsandstocks.com machines these perches in his T/C wood stocks and then puts an aluminum piller in as a regular process.

    I made the stocks pictured and to date I do not own a hunting handgun that shoots over 1 inch at 300 yards. Year to year I take my short barrel 338 out every 3 months and fire one shot at a target. This summer just before the August first deer season I shot that one shot and had to adjust windage two clicks. First time in a number of years.

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