SAAMI Hybrid Hunting, 7mm 168gr

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Joe King, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. Joe King

    Joe King Well-Known Member

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    No kidding, great question, and when are the other ones coming?
     

  3. AZShooter

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    Thanks for the tip. I have been wondering when they would make any 168 hybrids. Surprised to see they are hunting versions. I immediately ordered two boxes before they are out of stock. Just in time for the fall hunts.
     
  4. Joe King

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    I ordered a box too. Surprised me as well, I saw them I though huh/ wait what when did these come out? The deal sealer was that Matrix ballistics added $20 to their shipping. Oh well need to get some other things from midway anyway may as well give these a whirl. Berger must like surprising us once in a while. :)
     
  5. Joe King

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    I see they have them in 6mm, 270, 7mm, and 30cal:)
     
  6. kennygss

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    Thats looks like a worthwhile purchase, er experiment, umm inventory addition. :)
     
  7. Joe King

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    So after the initial test with this new bullet, I shot the following loads

    Nosler cases, CCI250 primers, seated 0.020" off the lands, H1000 fired at 200yrds 5shot groups



    70gr produced 1"

    70.5 produce 1.5"

    71gr produced 3/4" (including the flier that opened it up, the rest what touching):cool:

    no pressure signs what so ever :)
     
  8. AZShooter

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    Joe,

    What chambering? 7 Rem mag?

    I just began loading this new bullet in a 284 win. The SA Ruger has a 3.070" magazine. I am working with 3.005" OAL and kissing the rifling. Used RL-17, and moly on the bullets. 23" barrel velocities worked up to highest charge with no pressure signs of 57 grs for vel of 3080. Most accurate load was 1 MOA at 100 yds with 56.5 grs vel 3030. Next session will try deeper seating depths.
     
  9. Joe King

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    yup 7mag, I was tickled to find hybrids so soon, with how these are supposed to be designed I might eve be able to use my magazine again:cool:
     
  10. redneckclimbing

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    I got some of the 6mm's. From what I can tell they do not have the compound ogive. I did not have any way to physically measure them, however when looking at them compared to a 105gr. 6mm VLD they defenitely have a smaller radius on the ogive. It looked to me to be very close to the 90gr. Scenars.

    With that said, I shot them out of a stock .243 win. Rem 700. The barrel doesn't float and it is not pillared or glass beded. Still with 44.7 gr. IMR 4350 at 400 yds. it put 4 shots into a 1.5x3 inch group. I think that some of the horizontal was from the wind gusting from 3-10 and changing directions alot, and I'm not that good at reading it! :D So, I would say that they do shoot pretty well!

    Anyways, I was curious if anyone has compared the ogives of these as I did with some other bullets?
     
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    I did also but just looking, the 7mm 168s list a g7bc of 0.309, thought that was kinda high but knowing who designed, and tested them I just took it on faith:)
     
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    Seen this post the other day immediately ordered a box, shot them in my HS Precision STW that has a clip, built a few and used same load that i had with my vld's and went from 1 moa to well under a half moa looks like a great additon for us, thanks again Berger for another great product, cant wait to test them on game
     
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    I just cant wait for the 180 and 195 7mm hybrid hunting bullets. My 8 twist 7lrm could really use these.
     
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    Joe,

    What kind of MV's were you getting with the 7 mag and what length barrel and twist. I have a Hart 26", 9 twist. Never could get the standard VLD's to shoot, but I hear that the Hybrids are not as finicky. Sounds like your loads are spot on.

    Thanks,
    Jim