Question for my oldest boy

He wants to take a deer this year with his 45acp.
So, my ? is what would be a good round do do it with?
It will be at short bow hunting range. I offered him my 45colt, but he's set on his acp, so any help is greatly appreciated....Thanks in advance for any
He wants to take a deer this year with his 45acp.
So, my ? is what would be a good round do do it with?
It will be at short bow hunting range. I offered him my 45colt, but he's set on his acp, so any help is greatly appreciated....Thanks in advance for any help.
I've used 45 acp in 1911's and a revolver. I've made some longer shots on snow but won't bother trying again. Guess wisdom comes with age. The mt lion in my avatar was harvest with a 4" 45 acp. On deer don't expect any dramatic Dirty Harry style results. I stuck with gold dot and xtp's just as fast as I could get them in 200-230 grain. I figured a safe margin was to keep shots to archery range and be prepared for rough blood trails.
 
Sorry, but this AssHat has gone out of his way to disparage me because I have politely raised the issue of clean, ethical, kills. Why don't you stand with the right side here?
I was speaking to everyone who was acting out ("Let me just say, keep the language civil guys.
Nothing wrong with your personal opinions, about what you do for yourself.")
, and you seem to admit you are one of the ones out of line, but then try to justify it by bringing ethics into it.

Language, personal attacks, and bringing ethics into the discussion...Don't you think it is time to either calm down or simply stop posting for awhile?

You are not the only one here who needs to settle down.

Everyone has a bad day now and again.
Several here need a moment of reflection, and then edit or delete some things.
An apology not for your convictions, but for the way you express them is always a good thing too, when you disparage or disrespect others.

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Personally I'd use a 9mm. Anybody the listens to the news recently knows that the 9mm "blows the lungs out of the body"

Sounds like an easy track job with no need for the house dog to me 🤣
LOL, Yes that was a REAL EXPERT that made that comment, just as his expert comment on the AR-15 and the damage it does. Most of the gang pushing these comments, don't even know how to load an AR must less operate one. If you need instruction on how to operate one, just ask Boxer from California.....She'll set ya str8.....Just being sarcastic....lol
 
LOL, Yes that was a REAL EXPERT that made that comment, just as his expert comment on the AR-15 and the damage it does. Most of the gang pushing these comments, don't even know how to load an AR must less operate one. If you need instruction on how to operate one, just ask Boxer from California.....She'll set ya str8.....Just being sarcastic....lol
Always cracks me up that the scary "HIGH POWER" rifle round they always talk about is basically regarded by the rest of the real world as basically adequate for groundhogs/varmints, and questionable on deer. God forbid they see a picture of a 5.56 round next to a "real" cartridge... They'll have nightmares for years. 🤣

Sorry for the thread derail, couldn't help it on the 9mm thing 😅
 
Always cracks me up that the scary "HIGH POWER" rifle round they always talk about is basically regarded by the rest of the real world as basically adequate for groundhogs/varmints, and questionable on deer. God forbid they see a picture of a 5.56 round next to a "real" cartridge... They'll have nightmares for years. 🤣

Sorry for the thread derail, couldn't help it on the 9mm thing 😅
They don't even understand or know about the 5.56 round.
It was created to mainly cause a wound, so it would take 3 out of combat. The injured and two to carry the wounded. Don't mean to derail my own thread either. But the truth is the truth.....
 
On the one hand I'm like "why not just use a rifle, literally any rifle, and do a better job with a more powerful and accurate tool appropriate for the job" but then I remember we don't lecture each other abojt ethics on here, or at least we're not supposed to and we gave our word we wouldn't when we
Agreed to the forum terms and conditions upon joining…I want to be a man of my word haha. But more importantly I'm thinking about what a dang 50 cal, or 45, or heck even 36 caliber ROUND BALL has been demonstrated to do throughout history and how many deer have been smoked with arrows, spears, .22s, etc… and I realize there's no way it's gonna be that unethical if shot in the chest with a 45 caliber anything haha. Probably best not to use round nose fmj ball ammo, but honestly even that should open up two good size holes at least.

Ever watch vids of ballistics gel tests with old cap and ball type loadings? A primitive chunk of lead going at subsonic velocity penetrates in a way that just makes no sense. But it does!
 

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