Pulling Plastic Tips off of Ballistic Tip

[Roughrice]

Hey there guys!

New one to me but just want to see if anyone else heard of this!

I have a buddy that has a 308 Remington (hunting profile) that pulls the tip off 165 BT to seat longer and get right up to the lands.
He says it shoots lights out and blows thru both shoulders of deer but all shots are within 150 yards where he hunts.

Anyone else ever heard of this?
I saw the loaded ammo... looks like the older HPBT Gameking with a wide open meplat.

I'd like to hear if anyone else ever heard of doing this.

 

[Sockeye66]

I've trimmed and filed off the plastic tips from 140 ELDMs so as to fit the magazine and get closer to the lands but the part inside the tip was still attached, saw no ill effects on accuracy. I'd like to try it out more and see if I can determine the BC loss.

 

[DoneNOut]

BC doesn't matter within 150yds. Maybe the tip doesn't matter either with velocity still up pretty high at that distance. It is a way to seat longer in a restricted length magazine. I won't be doing it.

 

[Phil Rizzo]

The presence or lack of a tip shouldn't affect the distance to the lands.
The ogive to cartridge base measurement remains the same either way.

 

[Reelamin]

I have shot lots of Accubonds with tips fallen off. No issue at all just as accurate. I shoot them for practice and load development and happy to take any off your hands if you dont want to shoot them.

 

[FEENIX]

The presence or lack of a tip shouldn't affect the distance to the lands.
The ogive to cartridge base measurement remains the same either way.

THIS! Maybe he does it for magazine clearance.
I have some CE raptor series bullets that allow me to shoot with or without tips.

 

[Roughrice]

The presence or lack of a tip shouldn't affect the distance to the lands.
The ogive to cartridge base measurement remains the same either way.

Right!
Maybe I should have made a point to say get close to the lands but still fit the magazine since Rems are throated long.
Thanks for the correction.

 

[Phil Rizzo]

I see now, he's trying to fit in a short mag box, relative to his chamber.
which in turn gets him closer to being in the rifling.

 

[xsn10s]

I used a 20" 308 Sako loaded with 168 BT's to take a Texas buck. Shoulder shot @ 60 yards ended up with a dead buck. Busted the near shoulder and exited. Behind the shoulder with a 165 BT in a 30-06 in Central Oregon @50 yards, exited again and I retrieved the bullet from a tree. I leave the tips on, YMMV. The Ballistic Tips have a tangent ogive so they are accurate when you jump them to the lands. I load to mag length and have at it.

 

[Roughrice]

Yeah...
I was just typing too slow for what I wanted to get out there.
Rem 700 SA 308 factory rifle that was too far from the lands for him to load mag length with his load.
I skipped too much on assumption of the readers.
Sorry about that!

 

[Roughrice]

I used a 20" 308 Sako loaded with 168 BT's to take a Texas buck. Shoulder shot @ 60 yards ended up with a dead buck. Busted the near shoulder and exited. Behind the shoulder with a 165 BT in a 30-06 in Central Oregon @50 yards, exited again and I retrieved the bullet from a tree. I leave the tips on, YMMV. The Ballistic Tips have a tangent ogive so they are accurate when you jump them to the lands. I load to mag length and have at it.

Yeah,
I shoot NBT's in several calibers and haven't and won't remove the tips since I can find good loads as is.
It was an interesting subject to me when I saw the bullets and wandered if anyone else has ever tried it.

 

[xsn10s]

Yeah,
I shoot NBT's in several calibers and haven't and won't remove the tips since I can find good loads as is.
It was an interesting subject to me when I saw the bullets and wandered if anyone else has ever tried it.

Yes I won't either. But if your friend's load is accurate and is giving him good terminal performance then I wouldn't stop him either. After all at 150 yards or less BC isn't a big deal.

 

[birddog 68]

I've never heard of anyone doing this.
Wondering if he actually tried shooting them at mag length? I've found ballistic tips are very forgiving on seating depth.
totally agree

The Ballistic Tips have a tangent ogive so they are accurate when you jump them to the lands. I load to mag length and have at it.

 

[Sockeye66]

The presence or lack of a tip shouldn't affect the distance to the lands.
The ogive to cartridge base measurement remains the same either way.

My AICS magazine restricts the OAL to 2.95, removing the tip allows me to move the bullet out to 3.1, or .15 closer, I only tried this as an experiment, the gun shoots great with the unaltered bullets so that's where I leave them. It's a standard 6.5x284 SA and they're still going 2930fps.