What type of powder are you using? I have the 116 and use 49g Hybrid 100 V at 3.1 inches OAL for my 140VLD's. Only bad thing is I made this load up during the winter and now, took it out on a 85 degree day and boy it was too hot. Boat lift was tight and my drops were off. Volicity had increases about 100fps more as well. So I might be going back to the drawing board with trying retumbo, or H1000, or 4831. Just not sure since I already have a lot of the 100V. But with this load at 45 degrees I was shooting .5 inch groups and was good out to 600yrds with my turret. My load was running 2844-2842fps. One other thing, this was the max susgested load by hodgens web site also. I don't know why but I had though the 100V was a temp stable powder and it is not. So I my just make some summer loads and some winter loads so I can keep practicing.