New Allen Mags??

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by goodgrouper, Jun 26, 2007.

  1. goodgrouper

    goodgrouper Well-Known Member

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    Stolen development pictures of the new Allen mags are surfacing on the net! Are these the top secret new cases from Ft. Shaw?? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
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    Had ya goin' there for a minute didn't I?

    No. These are two spoof cases a friend of mine and me made up just to see what they would look like. The tall one is a .17 Remington ultra mag and the short one is a .14 WSM. Both are guaranteed to go real fast! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Kirby, think we could get Richard to build us a 40 grain .14 VLD with an aluminum tip? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
     
  2. lazylabs

    lazylabs Well-Known Member

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    blow the shoulder out a little and you could get another 2fps, if you shoot 100gr of charcoal under a titanium bullet.
     

  3. Fiftydriver

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    Little extreme for even me!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    I would bet Richard would make us any bullet we wanted, that is if we wanted to pay for the dies and get someone to make a 1-3 twist 14 cal barrel!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

    Neat pic!!

    Kirby Allen(50)
     
  4. royinidaho

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    Hey GG,

    I'd try a case full of Bullseye in the little one to see if the bullet didn't do a melt down between the chamber and the target.

    If it worked in the little one I'm sure it would do well in the big one. I'm betting it would orbit the earth at about 20 feet elevation at least twice before anything would stop it. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif

    That's probably the only cartridge that the biggest danger would be shooting yourself in the back if you were still at the bench 90 minutes later when she started the second orbit. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
     
  5. goodgrouper

    goodgrouper Well-Known Member

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    Maybe Dan would venture into .14's for us!?
     
  6. goodgrouper

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    I think that H50bmg or H870 would be the only powders we could use without sticking the bolt in our foreheads! I would really like to see how much of these powders I could use to make it shoot but I don't like the idea of buying a new barrel every three shots!!


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  7. Eaglet

    Eaglet Well-Known Member

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    GG,

    you guys must be pros when it comes to necking down. Do you mind telling us how you two acomplished that?
    Pretty extreme.
    Nice photos!
     
  8. JLR

    JLR Well-Known Member

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    Dangit, that might beat the .22 caliber sabot that TMR and I made for the .408 Chey Tac case. Oh well, back to the drawing board /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
     
  9. Hired Gun

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    A sobot assisted .224 in a .408 necked case would walk all over these little wildcats in the speed department.
     
  10. goodgrouper

    goodgrouper Well-Known Member

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    Nah, we're not really pros on the subject. We just have the right tooling to do it quick. These cases were made with a drill press running the cases into a cutting plate covered in oil of all different sized holes until the proper dimension is achieved. If these were real cases we intended to actually shoot, we would not go the full 25 steps it took to neck these particular cases down. We would only go a maximum of 7 or 8 steps. Then we would neck turn and fireform to straighten them. This method actually produces brass that is really concentric but at sometime, the thickness built up in the shoulder/neck junction will work it's way up into the neck again and more neck turning is in order.
     
  11. Fiftydriver

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    I think Dan would say, "certainly I will take your money to make any barrel you want, let me figure up the bill", with a big smile on his face!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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  12. screech

    screech Well-Known Member

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    im sure, thinking to him self, what an idiot.