I purchased my first ever military style rifle for hunting predators/deer/black bear this spring after a lot of research I went with a OD green 18.6" Robinson Arms XCR-L in 6.8SPC that I am loading with the new Barnes 95gr TTSX bullets @ 2825fps. In actual field conditions I am getting an average of 3" 3 shot groups @ 300 yards and 6" 3 shot groups @ 400 yards. The new 95gr TTSX are designed to expand down to 1600fps which makes this a 450 yard deer cartridge/bullet combo but I will not be shooting deer beyond 330 yards which is my personal limit for hunting with this rifle/cartridge combo. Here is a pic of the rifle I have a Leupold VX111 4.5-14X40mm Varmint reticle 30mm tube side focus scope installed. Was out black bear hunting with my 3 year old son and 9 month old Chessy a few weeks ago we all had a great time but no bears came home with us. Here is how I carry it on my quad the other rifle is a shortened to 21" Rem 700 LSS in 375RUM loaded with 260gr Accubonds/RL 17 @ 3020fps.