MOA vs clicks

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by buck52, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. buck52

    buck52 Member

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    Hi
    If you range a target and your moa chart states come up 2.70 moa, how do you dial it in (clicks) on a 1/4 moa IOR scope. the closest i can calculate is 10 clicks, that leaves .2 of a moa out, over a long range that can mean a miss? cant it?
    How the hell do you dial in .2 or .5 of a click? jees i've got a headace!

    Sorry to be a dope on this but I just got into MOA's etc.
     
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  2. tackb

    tackb Well-Known Member

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    dial 11 and it will put you .05 moa out (your diailing 2.75moa) this will get you pretty close and if your still worried you may have to hold slightly high or low but were only talking a very small amount .

    as distance increases your clicks will move your poi different amounts 400 1 click=1" at 600 it equals 1.5" 800 2" 1600=4" and so on , so you can see it will always be a compromise unless the distance falls on the correct moa? you could half these numbers by getting a 1/8th minute scope but that is a real fag and probably unnessacery ?

    i would dial as close as you can and not worry too much ?
     

  3. Don Ward

    Don Ward Well-Known Member

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    Your worst case scenario is data landing 1/2 way between clicks. At 1000 yards, 1 click on a 1/4 MOA scope = 2.62", so worst case is 1.31" @ 1000 yards. It takes some darn good drop data and shooting to be able to blame a miss on that.:D

    Its the same as a shot being 1/8th of an inch from where it was supposed to be at 100 yards and thats only if the data falls right between clicks. Usually it will be closer to one click or another so its really tough to shoot at a level where its a factor.
     
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  4. Rimfire

    Rimfire Well-Known Member

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    Round up and send it. Between 1/4 moa clicks = 1/8 moa not enough to worry about.
     
  5. buck52

    buck52 Member

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    Many thanks for the replies, seems I was bothered about nothing.
    Trust the maths someone said, seems they were right.
     
  6. Longshot38

    Longshot38 Well-Known Member

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    I'll make another suggestion to you. Stop thinking in terms of clicks and start thinking in terms of MOA. There is a reason your turrets have whole number values on them. Then your next step is to realize that MOA is an angular unit of measure and not a linear one. Thus assigning linear units of measure such as inches and centimeters to MOA or Mils is counter productive. Once you understand these concepts then some other things really come to light, such as having matched reticles and turrets.
     
  7. jwp475

    jwp475 Well-Known Member

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    Exactly
     
  8. retiredcpo

    retiredcpo Well-Known Member

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    ok heres my $0.0005 worth
    I look at it alittle differant
    for a 2.70 moa adjustment I would dial 11 clicks
    4 clicks per Moa(all my scopes have 1/4 moa clicks) plus 3 for the 0.70
    8+3+=11
    or more simply put 2 moa plus 3 clicks for the 0.70(round up to .750)

    all my scopes have three smaller marks between the moa numbered marks
    I figure it at 1/4 moa so if a drop chart gives me a fraction number I dail to the nearest 1/4
    my big problem is a drop program that only gives you clicks for adustment doing the math in my head while tring to get on a rock chuck at 820 yards is nto fun.
     
  9. Longshot38

    Longshot38 Well-Known Member

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    If it works for you use it. But this still overly complicates the issue. Thinking is clicks is counterproductive

    BINGO! This is what I was saying. Small numbers and simple math make for the best field calculations.

    Now that we are thinking in terms of MOA or Mils (you pick which one you like best) it is time to stop even dialing dope and start using those fancy reticles we pay the extra money for. If you are only using your reticle to range then you aren't using the reticle right. All of these fancy reticles that are on the market (mil-dot, Gen 2 XR, Gen 2 Mil-dot, MLR, etc....) allow for the shooter to engage targets rapidly without dialing dope. If the shooter isn't going to use these reticles they might as well just get a scope with a duxplex or target dot reticle.