memtb
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And a few dozen eggs!As long as they don't want my dog, guns, or my wife, I'll consider it. But 6 cows? Maybe. Better come with beer though!
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Is there such a thing as, "too much scope"?
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Yeah.And a few dozen eggs!
Cooked to order with toast, hash browns, and coffee
️. Sorry, couldn't resist.Hugnot
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Busted internals - heavy scope on a hard kicker - inertia - increased movement on lighter internals having less mass. The scope should have moved forward in rings as the rifle & rings recoiled back - inertia effect causing the scope (a body) to remain at rest. The inner workings of the scope like lighter (less mass) internal parts such as lenses, reticle & erector tube would be subject to increased movement having less mass. Busted wire type cross hairs occur. Stuff like this requires scope makers to make tough internals & construction on big $, heavy scopes.
Pleading exception to the requirement of variable power scopes:
If I could buy an exceptional high-quality glass. coatings, & internals 16X50, 30mm tube, side focus, mil-rad scope, would cheerfully spend $1K. I would mount this wonder scope using Burris XTR Sig rings on a 1-piece pic base held down with 4, 8-40 torx head screws after cleaning up everything with carb cleaner then blue loc tite. Relatively light weight, enough magnification, good size exit pupil (3.1 mm). Except for ranges less than 50 yards on moving targets I have never felt handicapped with scopes having a 5 foot field of view at 100, but if focus could be a consideration. I don't think at 50 yards & under most scope selections would be "too much scope".
memtb
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Hugnot, I was with you…..right up until 5'@ 100 yards. Apparently, you don't spend much time in dense timber/brush…..were you may have a rapidly moving target much closer to the 5 feet than 100 yards! memtb
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M1A1ABRAMS
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That's about the time I like the see threw rings w/ iron sights on my lever guns.Hugnot, I was with you…..right up until 5'@ 100 yards. Appardently, you don't spend much time in dense timber/brush…..were you may have a rapidly moving target much closer to the 5 feet than 100 yards!
memtb
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I put them on my Model 88 Winchester, but just couldn't make them work for me! I had to raise my head from the stock…..losing my "cheek weld". And, I could never hit hand thrown cans like pre scope and see through rings!
I'm glad that you've had success with them! memtb
We can only dream.....
Hugnot
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Correct - my specialty is tiny rodents at much longer ranges than 100 yards in the wide rolling prairies of western USA, with exception to larger apex rodents like yellow belly marmots, aka rockchucks that often go 8 pounds plus & coyotes - at same distances.Hugnot, I was with you…..right up until 5'@ 100 yards. Appardently, you don't spend much time in dense timber/brush…..were you may have a rapidly moving target much closer to the 5 feet than 100 yards!
Should I need a weapon for rapidly moving targets at powder burn ranges
I would use this:
No scope, olde fashion open sights - ramp front. Granted, with olde eyes there is the problem of astigmatism preventing nice clear focus of back sights for a fine sighting. A small 2X scope would fix this. A scope with a 5 ft field of view at 100 would probably have a FOV at powder burn ranges that would be measured in inches. Mounting a 3X prism scope on this rifle would be problematic because short eye relief and bigger than customary tube diameter. I will probably mount a Leupold 2X light weight scope on the rifle & everything would be easy to lug around.
A Leupold Freedom 1.5-4X20 would not be "too much scope" for this rifle.
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memtb
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Hugnot……pray tell, what cartridge? memtb
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HARPERC
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With age (on both ends) I've found reflex sights a very good alternative to irons.Correct - my specialty is tiny rodents at much longer ranges than 100 yards in the wide rolling prairies of western USA, with exception to larger apex rodents like yellow belly marmots, aka rockchucks that often go 8 pounds plus & coyotes - at same distances.
Should I need a weapon for rapidly moving targets at powder burn ranges
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No scope, olde fashion open sights - ramp front. Granted, with olde eyes there is the problem of astigmatism preventing nice clear focus of back sights for a fine sighting. A small 2X scope would fix this. A scope with a 5 ft field of view at 100 would probably have a FOV at powder burn ranges that would be measured in inches. Mounting a 3X prism scope on this rifle would be problematic because short eye relief and bigger than customary tube diameter. I will probably mount a Leupold 2X light weight scope on the rifle & everything would be easy to lug around.
A Leupold Freedom 1.5-4X20 would not be "too much scope" for this rifle.
std7mag
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I usually remember to turn the magnification to it's lowest setting.
But i have been caught out making a bad shot on a black bear due to forgetting to rezero my scope after shooting long distance.
QuietTexan
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I fully understand and even embrace the instructional benefit of iron sights. But the ease of use of any modern holo, red dot, reflex, etc combined with proven durability makes them an easy choice now. An 1895 in 45-70 with a red dot is an absolute brush monster. No concerns over lack of penetration there, and depending on the sling setup easier to handle than a 44 Mag revolver.
Or it's so foggy any scope is worthless. Get the 94 and go git em.
Hugnot
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.375-.338
7mm Rem fireformed/necked up to .375 works.
Drill & tap Ruger M77 MKII for a pic EGW rail then reflex sight or other.
Ballistics with 270 grain spbt or 250 gr. spbt are sort of like a .308 with 165's or 168's so a scope would be nice for longer ranges.
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