Take a look at the senior members on this sight when they sell a rifle. The add goes something like this "Custom rifle, match barrel --" long, bedded in ------ stock, ----- bases and rings (if you get lucky), rifle shoots .5 inch groups at 100 yards, --- rounds fired, SCOPE NOT INCLUDED!!!!" Most newbies want the best rifle they can buy, but then top it off with el cheapo scope, bases and rings. I have learned that a good scope is more important to me than the rifle. I will be selling a rifle soon, but I will be holding tight to my scope. How many times do you hear people stating their scope holds zero. That is great, but can it dial up elevation, correct for windage and return back to zero every time. If you dial up for 10 moa does the poi move exactly 10 moa straight up. How many clicks are you going to dial if you need to correct for 200 moa at 1000 yards. Now if you have a variable powered scope, when you zoom in or out does the point of impact move. Once you find a scope that will pass all of these questions, I guarantee you will not want to sell it. Some say you should spend as much on the scope as you spend on your rifle. My advice is take all that new rifle money, double it, buy the best scope you can find, put it on old betsy, get her free floated, bedded, trigger done, lap the recoil lugs, then get out there and shoot as much as you can! I would like to see someone smarter than me start a poll asking the seasoned long range shooters what the most important piece of the long range shooting package is and I bet the scope would be at the top of, or very close to the top of that list. Accuracy is accumulative, a measure of the whole package, but if you want to get serious about long range shooting there is no way around needing a great scope. In that poll ask how many rifles vs scopes they have sold. Money spent on a good quality scope will always be money well spent.