gun)I hunt out west and understand your disgust with the elk predation.
But really your problem is so small to that of Wisconsins it is almost laughable.
You all have the ability to take wolf managment into your own hands but very few do.
Your land mass is at least 2.5 times that of WI, your human population is 1/5 of WI. Your Dept of wildlife has a budget and employment number that are over 50% less than what WI spend or employs.
Your state list 2010 numbers of 566 animals in 108 packs
Wisconsin list a minimum number of over 181 packs and 800+ animals. (winter numbers 2010) WOLF HAVE BEEN SIGHTED IN 55 OF OUR 72 COUNTIES.
Yet ours' are still protected. Thanks to the liberal tree huggers in the souther half of the state, we will likly never have a hunt, remember WI was the birth place of the enviormental movement, Per capita we have more PETA than California.
With deer being 1/4 the size of an elk what do you think the predation numbers are? We may have had the worst deer hunt in the northern half of WI in over 40 years.
Thanks to a certain percentage of true conservationist I suspect we lost over 15% of our wolf population during the 9 day deer season. Thank you fellow deer conservationist. Look at the links below and notice the state termed illegal taking of wolves figures. I suspect these were mostly hybreed dogs shot in self defense as hunters delved into the timber.
Look at the wolf pack maps, I had a phone coversation with a fellow today with 4 wolves on his deer cam, he is well outside the listed area of any wolf pack. I suspect there is a gross under estimate of our wolf numbers, which may also be a issue in your state as well.
We had a man killed this year by a wolf yes a single wolf, it was never widely reported, but over 75 miles from the nearest listed wolf pack. The man hit a wolf on his motorcycle killing both himself and the wolf.
I have seen a wolf 30 yards behind my house in daylight in an open farm field setting. I have seen at least 12 more from my vehicle in the last half dozen years. I don't live in northern WI but in the central forest area, see map link. We are a heavily populated state look at the number of dog kills in the last year, it is pushing 50 and many were killed in the owners yard.
Wi used to have some of the best public land deer hunting in the Nation, that has changed. If your planning a hunt here, you best think twice about a northern WI hunt on any land.
Here are some good links showing the problems, notice in the second report the large % of wolves that are shot. Yet we have no season, are we feed up.
HELL YA.
Gray Wolf Distribution Map - 2010 - WDNR
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/er/publications/reports/pdfs/ER_report140.pdf?topic=mammals
Table1. 2011 Dog Depredations by Wolves (listed by date)Date County Pack Dogs More Information
3/10/11 Iron Morrison Creek 1 dog killed (Beagle, female, 3 years) Map/Info
3/25/11 Ashland Magee Creek 1 dog killed (Collie, male) Info
4/22/11 Taylor Chequamegon Waters 1 dog injured (Walker, female, 4 years) Map/Info
5/27/11 Clark N/A 1 dog killed (Coonhound, male, 3 years) Info
6/27/11 Washburn N/A 1 dog injured (Cocker Spaniel) Info
7/10/11 Marinette Lake Noquebay 1 dog injured (mix, female) Info
7/16/11 Douglas Ox Creek 1 dog killed (Walker, male 3 years) Map/Info
7/23/11 Bayfield Delta 1 dog killed (Redtick, female, 3 years) Map/Info
7/25/11 Bayfield Orienta 1 dog killed (Australian heeler, male, 1.5 years) Map/Info
7/29/11 Ashland Black Lake 1 dog killed (Bluetick, female, 2.5 years) Map/Info
8/2/11 Oconto Peshtigo Brook 1 dog killed (Black & Tan, male 8 years) Map/Info
8/6/11 Washburn Tranus Lake 1 dog killed (Bluetick, female, 3 years) Map/Info
8/11/11 Monroe Starlight 1 dog injured (Lab, female, 10 years) Map/Info
8/15/11 Burnett Riverside 1 dog killed (Black & Tan, male, 7-8 years) Map/Info
8/20/11 Douglas Moose Road 1 dog killed (Bluetick, male, 9 years) Map/Info
8/23/11 Douglas Lake Nebagamon 1 dog killed (Walker, male, 2 years) Map/Info
8/26/11 Rusk North Blue Hills 1 dog killed (Redbone, female, 9 years) Map/Info
8/28/11 Douglas Lake Nebagamon 1 dog killed (Walker, female, 8 years) Map/Info
8/30/11 Price Catawba 2 dogs killed (bear training hounds) Map/Info
9/16/11 Bayfield Flag River 1 dog killed (Walker, female, 5 years) Map/Info
9/17/11 Douglas Casey Creek 2 dogs injured (bear hunting hounds) Map/Info
9/19/11 Oconto Peshtigo Brook 1 dog killed (Plott/Bluetick, female, 7 years) Map/Info
9/28/11 Douglas Shoberg Lake 1 dog killed (Walker/Plott, male, 5 years) Map/Info
10/22/11 Lincoln Ranger Island 1 dog injured (Walker, female, 3 years) Map/Info
But really your problem is so small to that of Wisconsins it is almost laughable.
You all have the ability to take wolf managment into your own hands but very few do.
Your land mass is at least 2.5 times that of WI, your human population is 1/5 of WI. Your Dept of wildlife has a budget and employment number that are over 50% less than what WI spend or employs.
Your state list 2010 numbers of 566 animals in 108 packs
Wisconsin list a minimum number of over 181 packs and 800+ animals. (winter numbers 2010) WOLF HAVE BEEN SIGHTED IN 55 OF OUR 72 COUNTIES.
Yet ours' are still protected. Thanks to the liberal tree huggers in the souther half of the state, we will likly never have a hunt, remember WI was the birth place of the enviormental movement, Per capita we have more PETA than California.
With deer being 1/4 the size of an elk what do you think the predation numbers are? We may have had the worst deer hunt in the northern half of WI in over 40 years.
Thanks to a certain percentage of true conservationist I suspect we lost over 15% of our wolf population during the 9 day deer season. Thank you fellow deer conservationist. Look at the links below and notice the state termed illegal taking of wolves figures. I suspect these were mostly hybreed dogs shot in self defense as hunters delved into the timber.
Look at the wolf pack maps, I had a phone coversation with a fellow today with 4 wolves on his deer cam, he is well outside the listed area of any wolf pack. I suspect there is a gross under estimate of our wolf numbers, which may also be a issue in your state as well.
We had a man killed this year by a wolf yes a single wolf, it was never widely reported, but over 75 miles from the nearest listed wolf pack. The man hit a wolf on his motorcycle killing both himself and the wolf.
I have seen a wolf 30 yards behind my house in daylight in an open farm field setting. I have seen at least 12 more from my vehicle in the last half dozen years. I don't live in northern WI but in the central forest area, see map link. We are a heavily populated state look at the number of dog kills in the last year, it is pushing 50 and many were killed in the owners yard.
Wi used to have some of the best public land deer hunting in the Nation, that has changed. If your planning a hunt here, you best think twice about a northern WI hunt on any land.
Here are some good links showing the problems, notice in the second report the large % of wolves that are shot. Yet we have no season, are we feed up.
HELL YA.
Gray Wolf Distribution Map - 2010 - WDNR
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/land/er/publications/reports/pdfs/ER_report140.pdf?topic=mammals
Table1. 2011 Dog Depredations by Wolves (listed by date)Date County Pack Dogs More Information
3/10/11 Iron Morrison Creek 1 dog killed (Beagle, female, 3 years) Map/Info
3/25/11 Ashland Magee Creek 1 dog killed (Collie, male) Info
4/22/11 Taylor Chequamegon Waters 1 dog injured (Walker, female, 4 years) Map/Info
5/27/11 Clark N/A 1 dog killed (Coonhound, male, 3 years) Info
6/27/11 Washburn N/A 1 dog injured (Cocker Spaniel) Info
7/10/11 Marinette Lake Noquebay 1 dog injured (mix, female) Info
7/16/11 Douglas Ox Creek 1 dog killed (Walker, male 3 years) Map/Info
7/23/11 Bayfield Delta 1 dog killed (Redtick, female, 3 years) Map/Info
7/25/11 Bayfield Orienta 1 dog killed (Australian heeler, male, 1.5 years) Map/Info
7/29/11 Ashland Black Lake 1 dog killed (Bluetick, female, 2.5 years) Map/Info
8/2/11 Oconto Peshtigo Brook 1 dog killed (Black & Tan, male 8 years) Map/Info
8/6/11 Washburn Tranus Lake 1 dog killed (Bluetick, female, 3 years) Map/Info
8/11/11 Monroe Starlight 1 dog injured (Lab, female, 10 years) Map/Info
8/15/11 Burnett Riverside 1 dog killed (Black & Tan, male, 7-8 years) Map/Info
8/20/11 Douglas Moose Road 1 dog killed (Bluetick, male, 9 years) Map/Info
8/23/11 Douglas Lake Nebagamon 1 dog killed (Walker, male, 2 years) Map/Info
8/26/11 Rusk North Blue Hills 1 dog killed (Redbone, female, 9 years) Map/Info
8/28/11 Douglas Lake Nebagamon 1 dog killed (Walker, female, 8 years) Map/Info
8/30/11 Price Catawba 2 dogs killed (bear training hounds) Map/Info
9/16/11 Bayfield Flag River 1 dog killed (Walker, female, 5 years) Map/Info
9/17/11 Douglas Casey Creek 2 dogs injured (bear hunting hounds) Map/Info
9/19/11 Oconto Peshtigo Brook 1 dog killed (Plott/Bluetick, female, 7 years) Map/Info
9/28/11 Douglas Shoberg Lake 1 dog killed (Walker/Plott, male, 5 years) Map/Info
10/22/11 Lincoln Ranger Island 1 dog injured (Walker, female, 3 years) Map/Info