how well does your sporter shoot at long range?

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  1. 30-06 boy

    30-06 boy Well-Known Member

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    i shot my sporter 30-06 with 180 mk's at 350 yards a few weekends ago.tried powders from imr4350 to h1000.imr 4831 and h4831 shot the best 2750 to 2800 fps.right at or under moa.want to try 178 amax's also.once i get into the 2.5 inch range at 350 yards i want to strech it out to 600-700 yards.do you guys shoot sporters for long range hunting?or have custom heavy barreled rifles?what caliber?how accurate at 600 yards?just curios as to how well sporters shoot at long range?thanks jason
     
  2. remingtonman_25_06

    remingtonman_25_06 Well-Known Member

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    All I have is sporters. They are all pretty accurate for factory rifles in my opinion. My 25-06 is a win model 70 classic sporter. Will shoot .4-.5" at 100 yards. Shoots 3.5"-4" at 500 yards. My newly aquired rem 700 bdl in 270 is showing me some promise. Shoots .5-.6" at 100 yards, 2" at 300 yards, 5" at 500 yards, and I was 4-4 on a 14" gong this evening with it laying prone w/bipod at 800 yards. My other sporter is a rem 700 lss in 300 RUM. It shoots very accurately. Shoots .5" at 100, 1" at 300, 3" at 500, and has given me some 1/2 moa or 4" groups at 800 yards. There is nothign done to these rifles except a trigger job and some reloads. I shoot my deer rifles out to 800 yards and my RUM out to 1150 yards. To me, for factory rifles, I'm stretching it, but thats all part of the fun. I use Leupold vx2, 6-18 target scopes, except for a MK4 that I have on my 300 RUM. I wouldn't hesitate to shoot any deer out to 600 yards, or an elk out to 800 yards with my factory sporters. Given good wind conditions and laying prone with bipod.
     

  3. Fiftydriver

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    These were all fired with my 270 Allen Mag sporter based on a Savage M111 receiver, 30" #6 contour barrel and Factory Savage Sporter Laminate stock. Not exactly a true sporter "weight" rifle at just over 10 lbs but it is extremely portable in the field.

    Please keep in mind this is not a store baught rifle, its one of my full custom Xtreme Sporter rifles so that is one reason for the performance. The other is the Wildcat bullets used.

    This is the lightest rifle I use in the field currently for long range shooting. My load is the 169.5 gr ULD RBBT loaded to 3265 fps using WC872.

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    These are actually fireforming loads that made this group!!

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    First two shots out of the cold barrel to check actual bullet drop against predicted bullet drop, pretty close.

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    This was a one shot kill at 1114 yards. Within three weeks last spring, the 270 AM scored three one shot kills past 1K on chucks. 1098, 1114 and 1248 yards. All shot off bipod and solid support.

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    This test group was fired at 930 yards, again, out of a cold barrel to check actual bullet drop against predicted bullet drop, again very close. This was days before taking the 270 AM on its first field test

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    The result!!! Very happy rifle owner!!!

    Now obviously these are the best of the best groups. They are not all like this but the rifle is a legit 1000 yard rifle on game the size of chucks and larger.

    With a properly build sporter rifle in the 8 to 10 lb range, loaded with the proper loads and topped with a quality scope and having the practice to use everything together, 700 yard shooting is to be blunt, a chip shot. That is if you know when to and more importantly "Not To" shoot!!

    Kirby Allen(50)
     
  4. royinidaho

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    Kirby,

    Regarding that 450 yard target. Is the rifle sighed zero @ 100 yds?
     
  5. Fiftydriver

    Fiftydriver <strong>Official LRH Sponsor</strong>

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    I believe it was 1.5" high at 100 yard for that hunt.

    Kirby Allen(50)
     
  6. royinidaho

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    That's flat flat shootin... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif
     
  7. dakor

    dakor Well-Known Member

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    This is from a stock Sako TRG-S 300 win mag. The target on the left is 200SMK's and the target on the right are 210 Berger VLD's. Groups were shot at 305 yards.This rifle shoots about the same size group all the way out to 500 yards and it will shoot like this all the time if I do my part. I have been also playing around with the 220SMK and those group a little tighter but I do not have a pic of them yet.
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  8. sniper2

    sniper2 Well-Known Member

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    Have you tried any A8700,IMR 7828, or H1000 in the 270 AM?
     
  9. Fiftydriver

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    Sniper2,

    I have used AA8700 with all bullet weights, works very well, a bit dirty burning but good results if you clean carbon fouling every 25 shots or so. Pretty temp change sensitive so if you load to full tilt loads you can get into some issues, I seldom do so its not a huge factor.

    Also tested Retumbo and it works very well also but seems better suited to the 130 to 150 gr bullet weights, for the big 169.5 gr ULD RBBTs, the slower ball powders have performanced better. IF you want to rip a 130 gr Ballistic Tip out at +3800 fps, Retumbo is hard to beat!!

    I do not like the IMR powders in my AMs. Mainly because of the very long powder stick length, just asking for problems with powder bridging. Would probably not be a factor in the 270 AM but with the number of powders we have out there, why bother??

    Kirby Allen(50)
     
  10. sewwhat89

    sewwhat89 Well-Known Member

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    The first picture are the last 10 bullets fired when breaking-in my 300 RSAUM, 165 gr Remington Core-Lokt factory at 3265 fps. The second picture is a 3 shot group at 535 yards with the same rifle, 53.5 gr Varget under 175 gr SMK at 2975 fps.

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