H-S Precision

Andy,when is the midland game fair, i might make it over for it, i was at the one at Harwood house last year but had to dash round it cos my Dad had made an appointment to look at a house the same day..
I think the guys at the rifle store are straight down the line and know the value of customer service etc.. The Americans set us all an example when it comes to friendliness and customer service, " how may i help you Sir" certainly gets my custom over a "Yep?"..
Pete
 
Well i have just ordered my H-S precision from the Riflestore , i have to say that Mike Norris cannot do enough to help you , if only all British business's were like it.
 
Els,
Please let us know how it all turns out.
Good luck!

PS
Although I know absolutely nothing about the Riflestore chap and nor is this comment in any way pointed at him, I would always recommend a certain degree of circumspection when people describe their former capbadges & trades, plenty of 'Walters' out there!
 
Well i can quote my cap badge.. and tell a few war stories,but i have to be asked nicely and fed beer first, other wise i, like most with a story to tell don't usualy tell it, atleast not beyond name rank number, unit and theater, got some scars and a war pension to proove it, not to mention some documentation. But you are right, there are a lot or armchair warriors all ready and willing to tell a war story they either made up of read some where. I have it on good authority that Mike is and was what he says, and withing an hour on the phone you would tell a phoney (no pun intended), I've heared only good reports on Mike and on the service from the rifle store, which is exactly the opposite of what i hear about sportsmans, now if you want realy ignorant customer service you should try some, by no means all of these German firms.
happy hunting with that HS rifle..
Pete
 
Brown Dog

I fully understand what you are saying.
However on this small island anyone in the rifle trade that says he was a Marine sniper had better be , otherwise he's going to run out of customers pretty **** quick . But i shall ask a few questions about him to various people and all ready have done . It's a very small world as they say , and it really will not be to hard to find out .
I have to say i believe him as he knows things that perhaps he shouldn't/wouldn't know .By all accounts he did the tests on the Accuracy International and Parker Hale sniper rifles for the British army ! only a fool is going to bull people with stuff like that , anyway time will tell , and yes i most definately will let you know how things go with the rifle , just a matter of waiting 2 months now !

[ 04-23-2004: Message edited by: Els ]
 
Pete,
I'll try my Sherlock Holmes:

"Spacecraft Controller" hmmm. That would put you as Ex-REME or a former Scaley?!

"War pension" hmmm. Did you drop a 353 on your foot?!
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[ 04-24-2004: Message edited by: Brown Dog ]
 
Brown Dog.. yep ex REME.. i was an Armourer. not a skaley.(shudder the fact)
Drop a what on me foot? you mean an AFV 352? na.. some body else did.. but it was a Saxon.. ha ha..
Pete
 
Gentlemen. I will personaly vouch for Mike Norris he has been a personal freind for many years.What the Riflestore and Mike are striving to establish is. My word is my bond and if it cannot be done I will tell you.I dont think making a profit is a dirty word they will record and fully warrenty every thing they sell.After all that is what we all hope for when we purchase items.The problem with Mike is he will tell you to your face how it is.I like it like that,it saves time.Also he is a Cornishman so it could be worse!
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Aficionado

Glad to hear it , i'm seeing Mike a week Tuesday , and i have to say i also like his no nonsense approach to things .
 
I spoke to a certain Tom at HS Precision again after testing the rifle and he seemed very concerned and said he would speak to Bignami to find out what happened.
He spoke of getting the rifle back (unfortunately via Bignami) to their facility for evaluation of the problem and eventual resolution.

I have also finally been contacted via e-mail so I have an easier method of corresponding with them.
The email I got was from Todd, the man I dealt with from the beginning and I have written a lengthy response entailing what I feel and what I would like.
He also mentioned he was disturbed I didn't call him about the rifle once it came back, which I did, and we spoke about it at length.

Here is the letter I wrote them;

Hi Todd,
I have recieved your e-mail. I would like to hear what Bignami has to say about the rifle never being sent to you.
I find it disturbing that you do not recall our phone conversation. I called you immediately after receiving the rifle back from Bignami and explained to you that it had not in fact come back to HS. I also explained that via the repair receipt that I was able to speak to the smith who carried out the reparation and that he had only screwed the barrel back in, without checking the threads, headspacing or testing the rifle. You suggested I try it out and hope that it might shoot well once again.
I called back after testing the rifle. Now that the rifle doesn't hold your .5MOA guarantee, while you may remember that previous to the incident it shot much better than .5MOA with a test target of .178MOA and my best being .25MOA.
After speaking to Tom he suggested I try it once again with the Federal Gold Medal Match 168gn ammunition but since I have now dismantled the scope and mounts that may take more time again, time I am not willing to waste.

As you know well I am not happy at all about this situation.
I purchased this rifle around October of 2004.
I started shooting it in April of 2005 when I got the rings, bases and scope.
It was around August 2004 that the barrel came loose.
I got it back around April 2006.
I got 4 months of shooting out the rifle in two years.
This is not reasonable.

In this time I have made numerous phone calls, sent e-mails, (never answered because I was always told "that e-mail isn't working") sent faxes (told the fax form the site doesn't work) and for all this had absolutely no satisfaction.

Honestly I do not have much faith that Bignami will send the rifle back, if they are prepared to simply replace the rifle that would suffice in solving the problem for me, leaving the problem to them to deal with considering that they were the cause of all this aggro and the two companies (HS & Bignami) can work who went wrong.

Even in the event that they do agree to take the rifle in and send it to you, going on experience I know I will not see the rifle for many months or possiblly a year taking into account the export/import/export/import procedures as well as the Italian testing bank on it's re-entry not to mention repair times and dead time in transit and processing.

From the very beginning, from when the rifle arrived to me I have kept a sort of diary on various internet forums. I have been very fair and objective giving praise where due and criticism where deserved.
I think you should have a look for yourself, there are many thousands of views and replies, around 5000 last time I counted. Not to mention that my signature line contains the links to each thread with the phrase "one very DISSATISFIED customer of HS PRECISION" this means that it appears in each and every post and reply I have ever posted, also prior to changing the signature line and in unrelated threads. This in turn means that the number of people who have seen this story unfold is many, many thousands.
Many of them are understandably negative toward HS and many people in the market for firearms stated they would not be buying form HS in light of what they have seen happen.
This record of all that has occurred can work to you favour.
It is also a good record of each of our phone conversations, which you may have forgotten over time. I supply you with the links so you can check it out of yourself and refresh your memory and see what people are saying about HS Precision quality control and customer service.
HS Precision or Bignami are in the position to make good on all of this and I will dutifully post all positive and negative results there.
Please read all of the links carefully, you owe it to me to at least take the time to read everything considering how much time and money I have wasted on this matter.

Good day to you,

Attilio Marra.

1st range session-
http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...=true#Post45057


Range session –
http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...=true#Post45192

1st quality control issue –
http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...=true#Post45112

read the last post of the page - http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...part=3&vc=1

http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...part=4&vc=1

quality control thread -
http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...rt=all&vc=1

Quality control revisited -
http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...true#Post120830

quality control rant -
http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...rt=all&vc=1

quality control rant and history -
http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3411043/m/491104074?r=953101145#953101145

quality control rant and history -
http://longrangehunting.com/ubbthreads/s...0&fpart=all
 
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