Thanks Cat and Boss. Thats what I like I like about this site, people that have been there, done that. Cat I agree with you about the Nosler brass not being worth the extra money. The only reason I was considering it was I figured I would offset some of the cost of the brass by maybe not having to fire form. Cat if I fireform using Lapua 30-06 brass will I have turn the necks if the chamber is cut for a no turn neck? Boss when you say fill 3/4 of the case full of bullseye, is this an aproximate measurement or do you have an exact charge for th 6.5 AI? Do you pack the case tight with cotten or just enough to keep the powder from falling out and how often do you need clean the barrel when fireforming, if at all?