Cutting Edge Bullets terminal performance

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by jedlowe, Feb 11, 2011.

  1. jedlowe

    jedlowe Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have any first-hand experience with the Cutting Edge Bullets on game? They look like a pretty good option for a high BC hunting bullet, but it would be nice to know if anyone has tried them out on game.

    They claim to be made of a softer coppers alloy than some of the other all copper bullets and have a hollow point which causes the bullet to deform and petal-out upon impact. It sounds good in theory.

    I would also love to hear about any media testing that has been conducted with these bullets as well.
     
  2. Joel Russo

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    We were the first to test the 300 gr .338 bullets for accuracy and terminal performance, and we had a significant input in the design of this bullet.

    We killed a bunch of Elk with them between 500 and 1,300 yards. Terminal performance was acceptable.
     

  3. RockyMtnMT

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    Joel,

    Did you have any issues with seating depth?

    Steve
     
  4. Joel Russo

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    No I didn't.
    The barrel was throated for the 300 SMK.
     
  5. RockyMtnMT

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    I ask only because it looks like the bullet dictates the seating depth. How did they shoot? Velocity, pressure, etc.

    Steve
     
  6. Joel Russo

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    You are correct. They shot well. Same velocity as the 300 SMK, no issues with pressure.

    I posted on a thread that was started about lathe turned bullets, and gave some data when we shot them out to 1,800 or so yards. I'll have to see if I can bring up the thread..

    Here's a a comparison to a 300 SMK. The case on the left has not been fire formed yet.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Booney

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    We killed a bunch of Elk with them between 500 and 1,300 yards. Terminal performance was acceptable.

    Does that mean worst than an smk or better?
     
  8. Booney

    Booney Well-Known Member

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    PHP:
    We killed a bunch of Elk with them between 500 and 1,300 yards.  Terminal performance was acceptable
    .Does that mean worst than an smk or better?
    Sorry I can't figure out how to quote someone.
     
  9. Joel Russo

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    No worse, no better...

    I've killed a bunch of animals with the 300 smk at extended ranges, some were dramatic, some were not so dramatic.

    No different than shooting animals at closer ranges; they don't all react the same way to the transfer of terminal energy.
     
  10. RockyMtnMT

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    Joel,

    Sorry to ask about things that have already been covered. 1800 yrds sounds like very good accuracy. So not being able to fine tune the load with seating depth must not have been a problem? I have been interested in these bullets but was a little nervous about the seating.

    Thanks for revisiting covered territory.

    Steve
     
  11. Joel Russo

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    Here's some info that I posted in Sept of last year...

    I did not play with the seating depth, as I didn't have to. We physically measured the group size at 1,789 yards but I don't like to post group sizes on rocks... I'll be happy to discuss the results with you if you want to shoot me a PM with your contact number.

    As promised... here are the results we logged when comparing the 300 gr solid with the 300 SMK..

    Both bullets were shot at a velocity of 3200 fps give or take a few ft + or - variation.
    The 300 SMK was shot out of a 33" barrel, and the 300 gr solid was shot out of a 30" barrel. Both loads are single digit ES.

    We did not shoot for group, just engaged rocks approx 12" in diameter. Two shots per rock at each range.

    300 SMK

    650 yds 9.5 moa
    785 yds 12.5 moa
    1,293 yds 27.75 moa
    1,460 yds 34.75 moa
    1,789 yda 49.25 moa

    300 gr solid

    650 yds 8 moa
    785 yds 11.5 moa
    1,293 yds 25.5 moa
    1,460 yds 31.25 moa
    1,789 yds 44.25 moa

    As you can see, the solid was 5.0 moa flatter at 1,789 yards. That equates to 90" or 7.5 ft.
    They were extremely consistent from shot to shot at each target.

    Not an all encompassing test by any means, but certainly some hard data to ponder....
     
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    does anyone have more info on the on game performance of these bullets. I have seen ltlr thread about them but just curious if anyone else has input on how well these bullets work.
     
  14. TheFishBox

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    Does anyone have any more terminal performance info on these bullets?