building first SP! help please

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  1. cowboy717

    cowboy717 Well-Known Member

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    Ok after shooting my original xp-100 in 35 rem, I've officially got bitten by the LR pistol bug! I'm wanting to build something that doesn't have too much kick ( to spot my own shots) and capable of taking whitetail at the max ranges I have here in Missouri. 400-500 max. I know very little about the pistols since I'm a rifle guy. But shooting this one has really got me want another!
    I know I'd like to stay with a center grip because I like the way it fits my hand.( I have smallish hands) could someone help me out n learn me quick! I'm reading almost everything I can on the custom XPs you guys are building! All I can say is WOW!
    Thank you guys! I'm gonna have to sell a rifle n get another xp!
     
  2. hammertyme

    hammertyme Well-Known Member

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    Center Shot Rifles - Miscellaneous Gallery Jim has the knowledge and the parts to build most any handgun you want except a center grip. Most people haven't got the center grip linkage or a center grip stock to start from scratch.

    There are several reasonable priced Savage Strikers on gun broker currently.

    The neat thing about the Striker is nothing involving the Striker concept requires a wait period or a gunsmith. 30 minutes after I receive a factory 223 Striker I will have changed the parts out to ANY caliber including a 460 Weatherby and be shooting. Of the bolt handguns the Striker has the largest ejection port so I can extract empty cases without releasing the bolt. Many call the barrel nut ugly. I call it a stroke of Genious as I do not need special time and expensive tools to change the barrels.

    Good luck and enjoy

    Neal
     

  3. bfr4570

    bfr4570 Well-Known Member

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    cowboy717 go here Specialty Pistols - Powered by Social Strata. Bring your visa and get ready it is not priceless. I have Strikers and XPs both. If you have big hands Strikers are nice triggers arnt that good. Xp has more after market stuff and great triggers. I have a Striker in 308 which is good for the yds you are talking. Are you going to use a rifle scope or pistol? Good luck and have fun:)
     
  4. hshunter

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    Don't forget the HS Precision 2000P handcannons! theyare an excellent option to the "customs".
    nmhunter
     
  5. Ernie

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    I like center-grips myself. I have owned a Striker in the past-good accuracy, but the trigger, even after upgrading to a Basix was nowhere close to what you can do with a XP. It was quickly sold.
    Are you going to use your current 35 Rem XP to make this build?
    Adding weight (heavy barrel), aftermarket stock, and a good muzzle brake is key to allowing yourself to spot your own shots. Cartridge selection is another thing.
    You are wanting to tag a deer out to 500 yards.
    With LR cartridges in mind you will lose about 250-300 fps compared to that same cartridge in a rifle length barrel.
    Jim See does great work.
    In fact, there are several accuracy gunsmiths who do very good work with center-grip XP-100's.
    Here are my two latest center-grip XP's:
    7mm SAUM (Short Action Ultra Mag) built by Chuck McIntosh Mac's Gunworks
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    338AX or Allen Xpress (338 Lapua Improved), built by Kirby Allen
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  6. cowboy717

    cowboy717 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not going to build of my 35, its just in too good of shape to tear apart n shoots wonderful with 180 hornadys. I'm scouting for another to build off of. Gathering info as I go. I'm really in love with the Russo center grip stock. And been looking into the 7 saum as the caliber as I already have a rifle in the caliber I have dies already.
    What contour barrel would u suggest? I really like those two XPs Ernie! They are what I'm kinda wanting my XP to end up like. What kind of muzzle breaks are on them? What do u suggest? I'm looking into using a rifle scope as well. Looking into a leupy mark 4 4.5-14
    Thanks guys a ton!
     
  7. bfr4570

    bfr4570 Well-Known Member

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    Ernie
    Got another one:D This is like shooting fish in a barrell. Show your SPs everyone has to have one. Ernie you are getting to good at this.
     
  8. Ernie

    Ernie SPONSOR

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    cowboy,
    Contour is going to depend on your uses. If not carrying it for great distances or in the mountains, a heavier barrel is advantageous for several reasons.
    One of the Russo stock's is a clone of the H-S. I like the feel of the H-S stock.
    Cartridge is a personal choice, again, depending on what you want to accomplish..
    The brake on my 7mm SAUM is Holland's Radial and the brake on the 338AX is Kirby's 5-Port PK (Pain-Killer).
    I have more of Holland's radial than anything else.
    I went with the PK brake because of the Lapua Improved case.
    What types of shooting do you plan to do with it?
    If field or hunting I like Holland's ART Reticle the most in a First Focal Plane scope. The scope on the 7 SAUM is FFP Leupold Mark 6.5-20 with ART Reticle.
    If you have more questions about the ART Reticle my email address is ernieemily@yahoo.com

     
  9. cowboy717

    cowboy717 Well-Known Member

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    I'm going to be shooting a lot of paper out as far as I can push it and taking it in the field after whitetails, making it my 'beanfield pistol' as I have several places where I can set and watch several fields at once. But no shots will be over 450 yds or so.
    Another question is ( and excuse me if I'm asking too many) how do you guys pack your SPs? I was thinking bout some sort of backpack but I see in that first picture it looks like a sling?
    I've also been thinking of the 300 wsm, but I think the 7mm will have a BC advantage n less recoil?
     
  10. yotefever

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    For hunting out west I use a Dragon Fly Eberlestock backpack.
    Here in WI I use a custom pack from QuietHide Holsters I have a scabbard with another compartment for gear and a water bladder so I am set. I started with a sling but didn't care for it after hunting with Ernie and his Quiethide pack.
    With a pistol I'm not going to be making quick shots so I like having it in the pack out of the weather and I have both hands free to walk through thick brush or climb up or down hills. Plus in WI it is a legal gun case so unload it and I can put it into the jeep and go to another spot.
    Dave will make anything you want and he has a bunch of different camo patterns to use.
    Also another option, my favorite coyote hunting pistol is the MOA Maximum MOA Corporation Homepage

    Good luck and I love the HS grip too!
     
  11. Ernie

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    I use a sling a lot still, or put in my Blacks Creek pack. Mine is the Canadian model.
     
  12. Ernie

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    The 7 will have less recoil and a better BC than the 30.
    If you are wanting to see impacts, how about a 6.5-284, 6.5 SAUM or 6.5 Leopard (6.5WSM) shooting 130 grain Bergers?
    Easily takes deer at the distances you mention.
    How far do you want to push it on paper?
    6.5x47 Lapua and the improved version (In essence a 6.5 Long Dasher) would also be a possibility.
     
  13. cowboy717

    cowboy717 Well-Known Member

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    I have been thinking of the 6.5 saum as a possibility, and the 6.5x284, how about the length though in the short xp action? I'm wanting to push it to around 700 or maybe a little more. But for any further I will pick up my 300RUM or 338 EDGE.
    Where do I look for these packs u guys are talking bout?
     
  14. Ernie

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    I rarely use my Quiethide pack anymore.
    I want to if needed, to be able to pack my boned deer or antelope out.
    That is why I use the Blacks-Creek pack. (Canadian)
    blackscreekguidegear
    The SAUM works great in a XP. Even better than the WSM, since it is shorter.
    Chuck at Mac's guns has a 6.5 SAUM reamer. I know because he is going to build me one:D
    My 6.5 WSM (18" barrel) runs the 130 Berger right at 3100 fps
    My 6.5-284's run the 140 grainers around 2700-2775 fps.
    I think the 6.5 SAUM should have about the same MV's as the 6.5WSM