I went to this old gun shop tonight to pick up some federal 215 Match primers tonight. It was the only place that I could find the primers. I was talking to the shop owner about my 264 and how I shoot Retumbo out of it. But told him I always wanted to try 870 and that it sucks that you can't buy it anymore. He says well I bought a 55lbs of it years ago asked me if I wanted some . He said 100 bucks for 8lbs I told him I only brought 80 bucks with me. He said no big deal give me 80 for the 1000 primers and 8lbs of powder and send me a check when you get time. I thought that was cool being I have never met the guy before. I am putting a check in the mail tomorrow morning for the old timer. I was also thinking about going back and buying another 8lbs of it for that price. So does anybody have any good info on 870 and the 264 win with 140 bergers ? I am running 70grns of Retumbo and Berger 140's at 3279 right now with really good results. But if I can get close to the same results with 870 I will buy some more of it esp when Retumbo is going between 26-30 bucks a lb by me. The guy told me he used to shoot 75grns with a 140 partion out of his old model 70.