Best long range muzzy???

Discussion in 'Muzzleloader Hunting' started by jmeier1981, Oct 29, 2013.

  1. jmeier1981

    jmeier1981 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    87
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2007
    Ok guys what high end guns are there out there? I nnow theres the badbull but is there anything close to that in performance that isnt 4grand? I used to shoot a knight .52 LRH and shot the 350g. knight bullets in front of 89g. weighed of blackhorn 209. It shot lights out and the trajectory worked perfectly out to 300yds with the ballistic plex in the Burris Euro diamond scope it had but that gun has since been stolen leaving me hunting this year with my old CVA Optima Pro. Ive shot a ton of deer at the 2-300yd mark with the knight but Im not very confident at all with the CVA so Im looking for options for a new gun for next season. I would get a new night but they dont offer the LRH anymore and I shoot left handed and all I can find online is right handed thumbhole stocks.
    So Im trying to decide what other options I have and if the badbull really is worth that kinda coin... I love laying out in the middle of picked bean and corn fieldsin the wide open and taking long shots so Im wanting a gun that I can comfortably shoot 250-300+ yds and still have more than enough energy to get the job done... meaning I dont want that to be at the end of the guns effective range, because under the right conditions Id like to stretch my shots out further and not have to worry.
    Soo shoot away guys let me know what options I have and what your experiences with those particular guns have been.Im looking for top notch accuracy and as much energy as possible as the setup might be used for bigger game and or longer shots in the future... thanks in advance for any input.
     
  2. Amre2me2

    Amre2me2 Member

    Messages:
    14
    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2013
    Go to frontiermuzzleloading.com best website for muzzleloaders. Not sure why you need to spend 4k for a muzzleloader. My Accura shoots out to 300 easily. Bergera barrel and thumb hole stock for left handed. All stock features.
     

  3. sourdough44

    sourdough44 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    183
    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2009
    Knight guy here, not sure on the left hand options. Why not try to replace the one that was stolen?
     
  4. ENCORE

    ENCORE Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    703
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    TOP OF THE LINE WITHOUT QUESTION........ Muzzleloader - Long Range Muzzleloader - Custom Muzzleloader: Ultimate Firearms

    I know a number of shooters with these and you won't find a better quality built, accurate long range muzzleloader on the market. This rifle DOES NOT shoot smokeless powder. If you're looking for a true long range muzzleloader, one that will be your last, the Ultimate is the way to go.
     
  5. trueblue

    trueblue Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,123
    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2008
    I would look at a 45 cal conversion on a Rem700 ML conversion.
    Arrowhead Sports out of Cedar Rapids can set you up.
    I am hitting 1 MOA or less out to 500 yards with mine.
    Shooting a 310 gr bullet with a BC of .430 at 2600 fps
     
  6. ENCORE

    ENCORE Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    703
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    Shooting smokeless?
     
  7. jmeier1981

    jmeier1981 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    87
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2007
    Because its a discontinued model and all I can find used or new/old stock is right handed thumbhole stocks which wont work since I shoot left handed. I dont need aleft hand specific gun, I would actually rather it be a straight stock without a thumbhole or left hand options.

    Will the Accura shoot the blackhorn 209 or does the breechplug cause hang/misfires???
     
  8. jmeier1981

    jmeier1981 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    87
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2007
    What kind of cost would I be looking at with this and is that shooting blackpowder or smokeless???
     
  9. ENCORE

    ENCORE Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    703
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2011
    If he's getting 2,600fps, he's shooting smokeless I'd bet.

    A 5" group at 500yds is very respectable. Not like the Ultimate but, VERY respectable!
     
  10. trueblue

    trueblue Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,123
    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2008
    1 MOA or less, usually less.
    As far as cost I am sure I have less than $2K in it all up, with custom full form dies, pacnor barrel, B&C stock, old style Rem trigger, picas tiny rail, rings.
    Smokeless powder build.
    Contact Luke at Arrow Sporting and get a quote on a build.
     
  11. jmeier1981

    jmeier1981 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    87
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2007
    Do you have any contact info? I googled the place and didnt find anything, and Ive never heard of the place.
    What kind of load are you shooting specifically type of bullet?
     
  12. FrontierGander

    FrontierGander Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    181
    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2010
  13. trueblue

    trueblue Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,123
    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2008
    Luke@319-329-8801
    Arrowhead Sporting Goods
    Cedar Rapids IA
     
  14. midwesthunter

    midwesthunter Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    845
    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2008
    I shoot buckhorn 209 in my acura no problems. I use reg 209 primers. I would get a savege smokeless and convertto 45cal. That's what im doing