7mm ultra

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by tmmcampbell, Apr 3, 2009.

  1. tmmcampbell

    tmmcampbell Active Member

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    Hi, ran into a new problem. I am reloading my 7mm ultra in a remington sendero. I wanted to match factory ammo (3400 fps w/ 140 gr. nosler) Here are my results with reloader 25:

    90.5 gr = 3225 fps
    91.0 gr = 3202 fps
    91.5 gr = 3224 fps
    92.0 gr = 3281 fps
    92.5 gr = 3280 fps
    93.0 gr = 3459 fps

    Any one know why with more powder there is less fps? Or why the jump of 180 fps with only .5 gr more?

    Next problem. The 93 gr load was the most accurate load. It was a one hole group with 5 shots (this was the only load that matched factory ammo for groups). However, the brass was a little shinny on the bottom (no sticky bolt or other signs of pressure). I shot the rounds at 45 degrees. Would this load be dangerous at 95 degrees on a antelope hunt.

    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
  2. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    If those are single shot velocities at each wieght, then you are going to get some deviation in velocity. In other words, If you shoot 3 rounds of 90.5 gr, you might get speeds of 3184, 3198 and 3225 with an average of 3202. And if you shoot 3 at 91 gr you might get 3202, 3221 and 3230 with an average of 3218. Chronographing just one shot at each weight doesn't give you a good picture. Now if those are averages fo 3 shots or more, then that would be odd. You also want to make sure your chrony is set up good with good batteries.

    On your 93 gr load, I think you'll probably be ok at 95 degrees but that might be pushing it. In anycase, it shouldn't be "dangerous", but you might want to work up to it with some lesser loads just to make sure.
     

  3. tmmcampbell

    tmmcampbell Active Member

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    Hey Montana thanks for the reply. Those were 5 shot averages. I am sure my chrony is good, replaced the batteries in feb, and I agree it is odd. The most disturbing is the huge jump between 92.5 gr and 93 gr.
     
  4. britz

    britz Well-Known Member

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    I have experienced discrepencies in velocities before too. did you allow the barrel to cool between groups totally? Was the temperature the same? was seating depth the same? Was the cloud cover the same (affecting your chrony). I don't have a real expensive chrono, and I made up my mind that I will only use the chrono to make drop charts using an average of at least 10 rounds on a few occasions for test. I don't really understand myself why the numbers seem to jump sometimes.
     
  5. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    I would have the same questions as Britz. Sounds like it could be just about anything. I would consider the light conditions for the chrony first, then load developing procedures, and compenents.

    It would be interesting to see all 5 velocities at each weight increment.
     
  6. Marine sniper

    Marine sniper Well-Known Member

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    If you are having pressure issues at 45* I think they are going to be a lot worse at 95. Only way to know for sure though is to shoot them on a 95* day. What was the ES on the 93 load ?