First off all - Hello from Norway
Since I have some experiance with both calibers at both Short Medium and LR with both I was originally thinking of answering the guy's questions. But as reading through the thread it boils down to a ****ing contest that I from my standpoint have a hard time understanding.
I know from personal experiance the joy and feel of accomplishment to hit a 6" gong 1st cold barrels shot at 600m and a 8x8" steel square at 800 and beyond - but after having been on youtube and looking at the many morons shooting at live game at extended range making poor hits, gut shooting and requireing 3-4 shoots at a previously unharmed animal makes me question the ethics of many hunters state side.
I have many friends in the industry since I'm making my daily living from selling guns and accessories - I have to put some questionmarks with some of the practice and the lack of ethical discussions on the forum.
From what I can read on this forum you are happy with a 90% successrate for 1st shot kills. In my book these are terrible figures - If 1 out of every 10 animals are wounded well then I can personally understand that there is a large growing anti hunter movement in the general non hunting public.
When I personally pull the trigger I want to be at least 99% sure I bag the animal. You can never be 100% sure since things happen in the field but to statistically leave 2-3 red deer and moose in the woods every year would effectively shut me out of all hunting anywhere in my country.
Maybe I'm getting week hearted at almost turning 40 - but seeing wild game animals gutshot, shot of legs, or being alive for minutes after shots being taken with both rifles and archery actually turnes my stomack.
So since the tread has already taken off to another direction -my question is easy. Are the many vids you can find on youtube at present within what you on this forums think is fair chase an consider to be ethical ??
I appologize for being very blunt and may come off as unpolite. I'm actually not but my language skills are not up to the level I can fully utilize the many nuances in the english language
Since I have some experiance with both calibers at both Short Medium and LR with both I was originally thinking of answering the guy's questions. But as reading through the thread it boils down to a ****ing contest that I from my standpoint have a hard time understanding.
I know from personal experiance the joy and feel of accomplishment to hit a 6" gong 1st cold barrels shot at 600m and a 8x8" steel square at 800 and beyond - but after having been on youtube and looking at the many morons shooting at live game at extended range making poor hits, gut shooting and requireing 3-4 shoots at a previously unharmed animal makes me question the ethics of many hunters state side.
I have many friends in the industry since I'm making my daily living from selling guns and accessories - I have to put some questionmarks with some of the practice and the lack of ethical discussions on the forum.
From what I can read on this forum you are happy with a 90% successrate for 1st shot kills. In my book these are terrible figures - If 1 out of every 10 animals are wounded well then I can personally understand that there is a large growing anti hunter movement in the general non hunting public.
When I personally pull the trigger I want to be at least 99% sure I bag the animal. You can never be 100% sure since things happen in the field but to statistically leave 2-3 red deer and moose in the woods every year would effectively shut me out of all hunting anywhere in my country.
Maybe I'm getting week hearted at almost turning 40 - but seeing wild game animals gutshot, shot of legs, or being alive for minutes after shots being taken with both rifles and archery actually turnes my stomack.
So since the tread has already taken off to another direction -my question is easy. Are the many vids you can find on youtube at present within what you on this forums think is fair chase an consider to be ethical ??
I appologize for being very blunt and may come off as unpolite. I'm actually not but my language skills are not up to the level I can fully utilize the many nuances in the english language