.300 win mag

Discussion in 'Long Range Hunting & Shooting' started by bullelk, Jan 3, 2009.

  1. bullelk

    bullelk Member

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    I'm a bowhunter-brand new to this rifle hunting thing but have shot and can hold my own. So... I have a piece of property and can't get close with a bow, but am regularly frustrated seeing lots of really nice bucks and bear at 400-1200 yards with wide open shots, frustrated enough at the monsters I watched last year to buy a long rifle. I am looking at a Model 70 .300 Win mag super grade with a Zeiss conquest 4.5x14x50..I'd appreciate your thoughts on this gun and scope for this situation. Thanks in advance from the rookie.
     
  2. JPRITT

    JPRITT Well-Known Member

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    That is a real decent setup! The caliber is great for long range especially with Berger or Serria match king bullets. Easy to get lots of factory loads for and if you reload the options are almost endless with the 300wm. If the supergrade is something you have offered to you at a good price and prefer it then go for it. I have found I like the durablity of stainless steel and fiberlgass stocks. But like with bows, there are lots of preferences and options. The set up you mentioned will be a great way to see if you like this long range stuff. My best advise it get quality equipment and practice and learn as much at possible before making pokes at critters.

    Good luck and happy shooting.
     

  3. Guy M

    Guy M Well-Known Member

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    "Supergrade" means nothing in terms of accuracy. It does however make one fine looking rifle!

    The .300 Win mag is a great cartridge for longish range shooting/hunting. There are some excellent bullets avail for it.

    Seems like there's a fine scope on that rifle already.

    300, 400, 500 and even 600 yards may come pretty easy. 1200 yards, particularly if there's any wind to speak of is a different level altogether. Pay your dues, and you'll get there. It's more about the shooter than the rifle.

    Regards, Guy
     
  4. grit

    grit Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I'd skip the super grade and go with a Sendero II. A better long range tool. 300win is great.
     
  5. ICANHITHIMMAN

    ICANHITHIMMAN Well-Known Member

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    Im with GRIT on this one go with the SENDERO........ Unless your getting some sort of super deal.

    Winchester Is a good rifle but that model is not pourpose buit for longrange the caliber is spot on but it is not a rifle designed for long range shooting. If you are set on winchester check out there new rifle that is designed a long the same lines as the sendero.

    The scope sounds good but having no experince with that model I could not say. Does it have target turets?
     
  6. Rimfire

    Rimfire Well-Known Member

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    +1 on the Sendero I shouldn't have sold mine. Best factory LR rig I ever had.
     
  7. 338 LEGEND

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    Go with the sendero its a great factory rig . The 300 win mag in this rifle will get the job done if you do your part. Good luck
     
  8. bullelk

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    Thanks all...I'll pay my dues and see where I get. The rifle and scope are both "new" set up a couple years back but never fired through a private party at a fair $1500. I'll buy it and see where I get as it sounds like a good place to start and is one sweet looking rifle, and reading more of your posts the Zeiss scope with target turrets, mildots and leupold mounts are great. If I need anything more at a later date....thats what gun safes are for!! Im real cozy with my Enfield .06 out to 300 at targets (longest local range) so this sounds like a great next step-but I do hate to leave that 100 year old war horse at home-she's killed me many a critter years on back. Check out shermancreek outfitters and see what my neighbor is killing on his place-I just dont have it in me to bait them every day for a bow shot like they do-to each his own, but you'll know why I'm doing this! In the meantime I will keep my eyes out for a Sendero II- sounds like a great rig and a gun I can work up to for the really long pokes. I appreciate the advice on 600+ shots-I'll find a place and do my time.

    Any thoughts on having a gunsmith fine tune this rifle, or should I save the $ and put it towards another rifle when I'm ready. Also a grain preference on the mentioned bullets-I dont load so I'll go with the best factory bullet available-I'm thinking 160??
     
  9. Guy M

    Guy M Well-Known Member

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    Always had best results with 180 & 200 grain bullets from the .300 Win mag. Good velocity, great accuracy and wonderful performance on game.
     
  10. grit

    grit Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like a beauty! Bed the action, tune the trigger, make sure the barrel is free floated. You can do all this yourself. You can find numerous threads with instructions. Or, take 'er in if you're uncomfortable doing it yourself.

    For factory loads I'd look at Nosler Accubonds and Swift Scirrocos. 180 or 200 grain will give the best long range performance. I'd test 'em both at 300 yards and go with the most accurate.

    Factory ammo is really not the way to do long range. Still, it'll get you to six hundred just fine.
     
  11. 338 LEGEND

    338 LEGEND Well-Known Member

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    lightbulbIf you roll your owen try some RL-22 with 180 Accubonds (elk killers) works great in my remmy 40x
     
  12. ATH

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    I have a Sendero in 300, hard to go wrong. 683 yard elk this year.

    Good bullets would be 200 Accubond or 210 Berger VLD. I used the 200 Accubond with great success. You will get debate on whether Sierra MatchKings are good hunting bullets, I have never tried one but the Accubond is hard to debate it's simply a well-built bullet with good BC.

    160s are too light for long range work. Go heavy in the caliber, ie 200 or 210gr.
     
  13. bullelk

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    I dropped the gun off at a local smith today, he's bedding, floating and tuning the trigger. He suggested shooting it a while before deceiding on a muzzle brake. I picked up some 180 and 200 accubonds (friggin spendy shells) and found a local range with a 600 yard target-just waiting to get the gun back next week and I'll let you know how it goes. Should I get a holder/rest type set-up so I can shoot more than 5 or 6 shots and if so suggestions? The smith said these kick like a mule.
     
  14. snowpro440

    snowpro440 Well-Known Member

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    Get a brake ! You wont regret that buy , you'll be able to shoot it all day long and you wont build that flinch factor....... lightbulb