30-378-Weatherby-Mag-or-30-338-Lapua-Mag

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  1. wildcat

    wildcat Well-Known Member

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    Hey-guys;-I-am-building-a-new-Long-range-rifle.
    I-am-trying-to-decide-on-which-round-to-go-with.
    I-am-trying-to-decide-between-the-30-378-Weatherby-Mag
    or-the-30-338-Lapua-Mag.
    The-30-378-Weatherby-Mag-is-what-I-am-leaning-towards.
    The-30-378-holds-more-powder-which-will-allow-for-higher
    velocities.
    I-wont-have-to-neck-it-down-because-Norma-makes-the-brass
    I-am-also-leaning-towards-a-tight-chambered-30-378-Wthby-Mag.-It-would-have-a-.338-neck-diameter.
    I-am-also-considering-the-30-338-Lapua-Mag.
    Can-you-guys-give-me-suggestions-and-your-thoughts
    on-which-round-to-go-with.

    Thanks
    Wildcat

    P.S.-Just-got-a-new-computer-this-week.
    I-will-hook-it-up-soon.-Thanks-for-bearing-with
    my-typing.
     
  2. Buffalobob

    Buffalobob Writers Guild

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    The 30-378 with a custom chamber would be the way I would go. I would look around and decide what is the heaviest VLD bullet that I would want to shoot and have the throat cut to fit that. Maybe something in the 240 grain range would be a good choice. I would check the bearing surface on the big Accubond and the big SMK and make sure the throat is good for both.

    Depending on whether this is a walk around gun or a sit on a rock and shoot a mile gun, I would get as much barrel lenght as I could tolerate.
     

  3. sharpshooter1

    sharpshooter1 Well-Known Member

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    .30-378 shooting a 225 grain wildcat would rock and roll /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif
     
  4. wildcat

    wildcat Well-Known Member

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    Thanks-Guys.-I-am-hoping-to-get-some-more-comments.
    This-will-be-a-heavy-rifle-and-used-for-long-range-varmint-work;.-It-will-weight-around-25lbs.
    I-am-wanting-to-shoot-the-180grn-Ballistic-Tip-
    for-shots-out-to-500-to-800-yards-
    and-the-210grn-Sierra-MK-for-shots-out-to-900-to-1500-yards.
    Here-are-the-specs;

    1.-30-378-Weatherby-Mag-(Tight-Chamber-w/.338-neck)
    Or-a-30-338-Lapua.
    2.-Lawton-7500-1.450-diameter-action;-Fluted-Bolt
    3.-Lawton-30"-1-10-twist;-1.350-tapered-to-1.250
    4.-McMillan-Tooley-MBR;-5lbs-added;-80%blk-10%Wht-10%Gry
    5.-Jewel-2oz-Trigger
    6.-Vias-Muzzle-brake
    7.-Lawton-20MOA-Base
    8.-Nightforce-30mm-Rings
    9.-Nightforce-NXS-8x32x56mm-NP-R2-Ret.

    McMillan-informed-me-they-will-have-a-inletting-program
    for-the-Lawton-7500-action-in-about-2-months.
    I-am-looking-foward-to-using-the-Lawton-Equipment.
    I-have-heard-great-things-about-his-Actions-and-Barrels.

    Anyhow;let-me-know-what-you-guys-think.
     
  5. guns_and_labs

    guns_and_labs Well-Known Member

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    Would a 7mm built on the 338 Lapua case (aka 7mm Allen Mag) be able to accomplish the same thing with less kick?

    [That's what I've been saving my pennies for.]
     
  6. wildcat

    wildcat Well-Known Member

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    I-would-say-no-if-your-not-using-an-improved-version-of
    the-7mm-338-case.
    -The-regualr-30-378-Weatherby-Mag-will-push-a-240-grn(.711-BC)-Sierra-MatchKing-out-of-30"-pipe-at-3200-fps-or-faster.
    A-regular-7mm-338-Lupa-Mag-will-push-a-200grn-Bullet
    out-of-a-30"-pipe-at-around-3200fps.-HOWEVER;
    if-you-improve-the-the-7mm-338-Lupa-mag-I-would-say-maybe.
    Kirby-Allen-has-an-improved-7mm-338-Lapua-Mag
    called-the-7mm-Allen-Mag-that-is-awesome.
    If-you-improved-the-case-like-the-7mm-Allen-Mag
    than-yes-it-would-be-close-maybe-better-with-the-same-
    weight-bullet-with-better-BC.-However;-if-you-improve
    the-30-378-Weatherby-Mag-case-than-I-believe-it-would-beat
    the-improved-7mm-round-becuase-you-can-use-heavier-bullets
    with-high-BC's-at-faster-velocities.
    Kirby-Allen-can-explain-this-better.-I-know-his-7mm-Allen
    Mag-is-an-awesome-round.-I-thought-about-going-with-that
    type-of-chamber;-but-I-don't-want-to-do-all-the-case-prep.

    Anyhow;-both-are-going-to-kick-and-give-great-performance.
    I-ve-always-wanted-a-big-.30cal-and-you-can-shoot
    heavier-bullets-with-the-.30cal.-
    The-7mm-only-has-bullets-up-to-200grns;-and-I-believe
    those-are-custom-bullets.-I've-heared-the-30-378
    Weatherby-Mag-in-a-tight-neck-chamber-and-custom
    rifle;-is-an-awesome-round-and-very-hard-to-beat-at-long-range-shooting.-However;-if-you-have-a-round-like-a
    338-408-Chey-Tac;-than-that-round-is-probably-the-best
    long-range-round-out-there.

    Maybe-Kirby-will-read-this-post-and-give-you-and-I
    a-better-answer.

    Wildcat