264 Win Mag load suggestions

Discussion in 'Reloading' started by gearfoot, Apr 16, 2011.

  1. gearfoot

    gearfoot Member

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    I recently bought a model 70 with a new heavy sporter Pacnor barrel that is 27" long and an 8 twist. Can someone recommend a good elk and deer load? Thanks.
     

  2. remingtonman_25_06

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    Few good bullets out there.

    Depends on how far your wanting to shoot.

    For deer I'd go with the 140 amax, for elk it will work but it better be about 500 yards or further.

    140g AB would be a good all around bullet as well as the 140g SST.

    I'd try H4831sc, H1000, and Retumbo.

    I'm working on my 264 right now with 140g amaxs/H1000. Results have been inconclusive at this point in time due to inconsistency issues. It'll shoot 1/2 MOA one day out, and 1.5 the next, but its due to a lone flyer, everytime.
     

  3. apexmtnman

    apexmtnman Well-Known Member

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    68.4 gr of Retumbo, WW cases, Fed 215M primers and 140 gr Bergers loaded .010 off the lands gives me 3280fps out of my 27.5 inch Broughton 5r 8 twist barrel. Haven't killed anything with it yet but alot of people say the Bergers will do the job, mostly punching paper and ringing steel with this load but it shoots about 1/2-3/4 MOA for me.
     
  4. RT2506

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    Be very careful trying someone else load in your rifle. It may be OK in apexmtnman rifle but it is 5 grains over the max load given in the Hodgdon manual. But Retumbo is the first powder I would try if I were you. In my 264 Win mag with a Shilen 9 twist 27 3/4" barrel the max load in the Hornady manual of 67.5 grs Retumbo with 129 gr bullet had too much pressure with 130 Nosler Accubonds in my rifle. 66.5 gr Retumbo in a 264 WW case or a WW case reformed from 7mm Rem mag, CCI 250 primer, 130 Nos AB 10 thousands off the lands, average velocity 3350 fps and is a tack driver. I have taken 5 WT deer with it in the past two years from 80 to 250 yards and the bullet has worked perfectly. I would not hesitate to use it on an elk if I got the chance.
     
  5. apexmtnman

    apexmtnman Well-Known Member

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    RT2506 is right work up slowly to max in your rifle. According to Berger, starting load with their 140 gr VLD with Retumbo is 65 grains, and max is 68.5 grains. Email Berger and ask for their reloading data and they will send you the info you request. I shoot the same load previously mentioned in 2 rifles, a custom built on a Stiller action and a Rem CDL SF both in 264 Mag and that load is safe in both rifles. I couldn't get the velocity or the accuracy out of H1000 or Re22 that I'm getting with Retumbo in my rifles, never tried Re25. Here is Bergers info for the 140 gr VLD


    264 Winchester Magnum

    Bullet
    Powder
    Start Load
    Approximate Start Velocity
    Max Load
    Approximate Max Velocity
    Fill Ratio
    140 Grain
    H1000
    62.5
    2839
    67.3
    3062
    93.8%
    140 Grain
    RE-25
    59.5
    2826
    62.8
    2968
    90.6%
    140 Grain
    WW WXR
    58.0
    2827
    61.0
    2962
    85.2%
    140 Grain
    IMR 7828 SSC
    58.5
    2866
    61.7
    3017
    86.1%
    140 Grain
    NORMA MRP2
    61.5
    2829
    65.0
    2990
    93.2%
    140 Grain
    Ramshot Magnum
    63.0
    2835
    66.3
    2992
    88.8%
    140 Grain
    VIHT N170
    64.5
    2783
    67.2
    2906
    95.8%
    140 Grain
    H4831 SC
    59.5
    2831
    62.0
    2946
    86.1%
    140 Grain
    IMR 4350
    53.5
    2871
    55.8
    2971
    80.9%
    140 Grain
    US869
    71.0
    2822
    75.0
    3013
    104.1%
    140 Grain
    RETUMBO
    65.0
    2871
    68.5
    3026
    97.7%
    140 Grain
    H870
    68.5
    2847
    72.0
    3015
    100.0%
    140 Grain
    VIHT N570
    65.5
    2855
    69.3
    3043
    94.3%
    140 Grain
    AA 8700
    72.5
    2795
    76.5
    2991
    108.2%
    140 Grain
    RE 22
    57.5
    2818
    60.5
    2954
    85.8%
     
  6. tCarter

    tCarter Well-Known Member

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    I am shooting the 140 Bergers .010" off lands in mine right now. I found 68.5gr of Retumbo is max safe charge in my rifle at 3224fps average.
     
  7. Long Time Long Ranger

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    For elk the 130 swift scirroco is one you might consider. It is an excellent controled expansion premium hunting bullet with outstanding BC. I have no problem getting the 140's over 3200 fps and the 130 scirroco well into the 3300's fps.
     
  8. Popapi

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    How long is tha barrel!?
     
  9. tCarter

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    26" factory Sendero.
     
  10. Popapi

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    32+ is SMOKIN!!
     
  11. ovastafford

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    Yeah it is Im only getting 3,080 out of my sendero barrel with 69.0grs of retumbo!
     
  12. tCarter

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    That is what my chrony told me. I have not streched it's legs yet to make sure the math comes out. Exbal works out about 40fps slower than what my chrony reads with my 300WM. Hopefully I will get the chance this coming weekend to test it out to 550yds.
     
  13. OKIE2

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    I never use any thing else but 100 grain nosler partition or ball tips
    for antalope or deer and have never had one to run more than 10 feet.
    my load is RL22 68.0 gr. @ 3680 fps. very accurate load for me.
    My point of aim is always high shoulder and spine then I don't waste a lot of meat.
     
  14. salasj

    salasj Well-Known Member

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    I've used Berger VLD hunting bullets in all three of my 264 win mag and they are devastating on game. I've used both H1000 in my Ruger and Retumbo in my weatherby and RamShot Magnum in my Remington rifle. Retumbo gave me better groups and higher velocities. Personally I will always use Berger just because I've seen them knock game of their feet where they stand.