155 grain Bergers

Discussion in 'Rifles, Bullets, Barrels & Ballistics' started by Clndesl, Oct 4, 2013.

  1. Clndesl

    Clndesl Well-Known Member

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    I have a 300wsm wit a 24" 1in10 barrel. I was thinking about trying some 155 berger vlds. Has anyone done this and what do you guys think about the fast twist and light bullets. I'm going to try hodgon superformance. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Broz

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    I think the twist would be fine. But I would not recommend this combination to hunt anything with except varmints.

    Jeff
     

  3. Clndesl

    Clndesl Well-Known Member

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    What bullet do u recommend for the 300 wsm
     
  4. emn83

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    Go 165 or higher. I personally like 180 grain, form my limited experience
     
  5. Broz

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    What animal? and at what distances?

    Jeff
     
  6. Clndesl

    Clndesl Well-Known Member

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    Everything from paper to elk and I would like to shoot as far the load allows. I shoot heavies out of all my other rifles but I just wanted to try something more available and different plus I have 8 lbs of superformance and the only data I can find is for light bullets.
     
  7. Broz

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    If you must use that small of a bullet (155) in 30 cal. , use a bonded bullet or solid and limit shots to 5 or 600 yards. And even then I don't like it for elk at any range. That's my advice anyway. I am sure there will be those that disagree.

    If going long. a 210 or 215 Berger would be my choice. I use H-1000 and a Fed 215 M. I have killed loads of elk , deer and antelope with these bullets from 200 yards to 1285 from my 300 win mag. They would work very well for long range hunting in your 300 WSM.

    Jeff
     
  8. Clndesl

    Clndesl Well-Known Member

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    I guess I'll just stick with the heavies. I'm just tired of not being able to get the 215 and 208s. Oh well. I also ran the numbers and the 155 hunting vld is pretty flat at 3400+ fps. Oh well. I guess I just thought cause we have killed some big bulls with our 6.5x284s and 140s,a 155 should work right.
     
  9. Broz

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    I am in full belief that there is a big difference between short fat bullets and longer ones of the same caliber or long bullets in smaller calibers of equal weight. But when you mentioned you wanted to take elk as far as your 300 WSM was capable, you are describing a high BC heavy for caliber bullet.

    These are just my personal opinions my friend. Not saying the 155's would not kill elk, we all know they would. But just not a good choice in my book for a 300 elk rifle. We have had enough threads with disappointed shooters because they used a small for cal bullet to hunt large game.

    But in the end it is your choice.

    Jeff
     
  10. MontanaRifleman

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    I completely agree with Jeff. If you want range, go with the bigger higher BC bullets. Also, shooting the smaller frangible bullets at higher velocities will almost surley lead to disappointment on big animlas. If you want to shoot lighter bullets, go with mono's or controled expansion type bullets but I would recommend at least a 180 gr size bullet.

    For powders I would recommend RL17, H4831sc or H4350. I was able to push 210 Bergers to 2930 fps with RL17 out of my 24" 300 WSM.
     
  11. ICANHITHIMMAN

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    Personally pushing the 230 tactical out of my 300 wsm (fn pbr), so far I have one raged hole with very little load development and I could not be more pleased. Only game on the menu for this year is whitetail. I cant share load details yet as I have not run it over the chrono.
     
  12. Broz

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    I will predict this to be a killing machine. I will guess the velocity from a 26" at 2700.

    Jeff
     
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    Steve
     
  14. ICANHITHIMMAN

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    Well Jeff I only have 24" to work with, after my pressure test I cant add anymore powder. With the ranges I am limited to here in western NY it wont matter much anyhow. I had a buddy buy a new farm and I am hoping to get a good long shot with the set up this year.