tnshooter111
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What about boxes of 200
Berger Bullets needs your advice - please help
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Daves762
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+1 on this.
Also either finish the bullet and trim the meplat or lower the price.
I should not have to buy more tools to finish the bullet when I'm paying $.50 each!!!!
6.5Express
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I would like to see smaller (25 or 50) boxes and larger boxes (500).
IdahoJoe
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I voted for 50 just because it is nice to be able to experiment with out buying more then i'll end up using. Other wise 100 is fine.
Stormrider
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I would like to see 500 round boxes too.
SBruce
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100 for me please!
By time I find optimum seating depth and powder charge and zero and confirm drops/trajectory, I am fully in need of 100 bullets.....if not 200 by time it's all said and done.
By time I find optimum seating depth and powder charge and zero and confirm drops/trajectory, I am fully in need of 100 bullets.....if not 200 by time it's all said and done.
100 bullets for sure.......when I find good load I will usually try to buy several boxes of the same lot since I participate in a lot of long range fun shoots in hunter class in the off season.
pressman
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+2 for all the comments above, I really like the 100 box count but love the 500 count that is offered on some models. I also agree that until you find out exactly what your rig likes you sometimes have a lot of spare bullets around. for example by rig likes the 140 gr vlds just a little better then the 130's not that in a pinch i could not shoot them if needed so i have 100 never opened box of 130's + few loose ones setting next to 1,000 rounds of the 140's.
really don't care what the quantity comes in just don't quit making them
really don't care what the quantity comes in just don't quit making them
Bullet manufacturers (low) mentality goes like this: "When they see the price (about $25), they will break their arms reaching for their wallet, cause they think they are getting 100 at that price , they don't even consider they might get just 50".
Eric Stecker
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To All,
Thank you very much for your feedback. Frankly, it is not turning out like I expected which makes me happy since we already put them in 100 count packs. This means we won't need to change to 50 packs.
I am learning more than I bargained for and have a few comments about some of the feedback made.
Several posts asked about small packs for testing (25 bullets or less). I'm not sure how much I am allowed to say but I can relay that you will see a solution to this particular request start showing up in gun shops across the US. We are excited about this effort and from the feedback on this thread I think many of you will be as well.
Others asked for 500 packs and there were questions about getting the same lot. To me these situations are related in that the goal is to get bullets that are the same.
Regarding boxes of 500 counts, I am really glad to see this feedback as we purposefully do not put hunting bullets into our quantity packs (we pack several popular target bullets in 500 and 1,000 count packs). The reason is because I didn't think hunters would ever need or buy that many bullets. I see now that I was wrong. It won't happen quickly but you can expect to see the popular hunting bullets becoming available in larger count boxes.
Regarding getting bullets of the same lot, we deliberately put the lot numbers of our bullets on the same side as all the other descriptive information so it is easy for the reseller to keep same lots together. We also put our bullets into sleeves of 5 boxes that are all of the same lot. If you buy the bullets directly from Berger we can make sure all the bullets are from the same lot. I can't speak for our many resellers but we have done everything we can to make it easy on them to keep same lots together and available.
Dave726,
I understand and appreciate your comments. One of the challenges we face is that if we add a trim and repoint step to our process the bullets will be more expensive. There is no way to avoid this reality.
Also, I've seen what it takes to trim and repoint. It is my opinion that this is a process best done deliberately and carefully. It is too easy to deform the bullet in a way that makes it shoot poorly. A shooter that is crafting each bullet can be careful to monitor pressures and appearance to ensure that everything is working properly.
Those who do this step in mass quantities are taking a big risk because the window between it being done right and wrong is very small. I think we do pretty good at making bullets properly and I don't believe we could do this as consistently as the individual shooter can so we don't.
Regards,
Eric
Thank you very much for your feedback. Frankly, it is not turning out like I expected which makes me happy since we already put them in 100 count packs. This means we won't need to change to 50 packs.
I am learning more than I bargained for and have a few comments about some of the feedback made.
Several posts asked about small packs for testing (25 bullets or less). I'm not sure how much I am allowed to say but I can relay that you will see a solution to this particular request start showing up in gun shops across the US. We are excited about this effort and from the feedback on this thread I think many of you will be as well.
Others asked for 500 packs and there were questions about getting the same lot. To me these situations are related in that the goal is to get bullets that are the same.
Regarding boxes of 500 counts, I am really glad to see this feedback as we purposefully do not put hunting bullets into our quantity packs (we pack several popular target bullets in 500 and 1,000 count packs). The reason is because I didn't think hunters would ever need or buy that many bullets. I see now that I was wrong. It won't happen quickly but you can expect to see the popular hunting bullets becoming available in larger count boxes.
Regarding getting bullets of the same lot, we deliberately put the lot numbers of our bullets on the same side as all the other descriptive information so it is easy for the reseller to keep same lots together. We also put our bullets into sleeves of 5 boxes that are all of the same lot. If you buy the bullets directly from Berger we can make sure all the bullets are from the same lot. I can't speak for our many resellers but we have done everything we can to make it easy on them to keep same lots together and available.
Dave726,
I understand and appreciate your comments. One of the challenges we face is that if we add a trim and repoint step to our process the bullets will be more expensive. There is no way to avoid this reality.
Also, I've seen what it takes to trim and repoint. It is my opinion that this is a process best done deliberately and carefully. It is too easy to deform the bullet in a way that makes it shoot poorly. A shooter that is crafting each bullet can be careful to monitor pressures and appearance to ensure that everything is working properly.
Those who do this step in mass quantities are taking a big risk because the window between it being done right and wrong is very small. I think we do pretty good at making bullets properly and I don't believe we could do this as consistently as the individual shooter can so we don't.
Regards,
Eric
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WyoElk2Hunt
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Thanks Eric for your response. It is nice to know that someone cares about what we think. Looking forward to seeing the results of this survey in the stores.
Eric,
I don't believe that I am only speaking for myself. But I shoot quite a bit of target. However, my target rig is also my hunting rig. Just the way things work out for me because I am on a budget. So I will shoot all hunting bullets for mere simplicity. I do not want to have more than one load with any particular rifle that can be confused during hunting season. Especially seeing how the target and hunting bullets look alike. So, although I hunt a few times a year and shoot targets many times, I will shoot hunting bullets for everything.
I don't believe that I am only speaking for myself. But I shoot quite a bit of target. However, my target rig is also my hunting rig. Just the way things work out for me because I am on a budget. So I will shoot all hunting bullets for mere simplicity. I do not want to have more than one load with any particular rifle that can be confused during hunting season. Especially seeing how the target and hunting bullets look alike. So, although I hunt a few times a year and shoot targets many times, I will shoot hunting bullets for everything.
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SBruce
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Eric,
This is just a guess, because I am not a member of any other forum; but I think most of us that hunt long range or shoot long range while hunting also practice alot, or shoot off season alot......perhaps that is the difference from the "one or two box a year" hunter, which I believe most hunters coast to coast fall into that catagory.
If I were a betting man, I'd suspect that some other forums would give different results, possibly more requests for small packaging.?
Regardless, Thanks for your interest in our opinions and continueing to produce a great product.
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Eric Stecker
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SBruce,
That is an excellent point. I believe that our bullets are also more popular among these shooters. Just another reason why it makes sense to add 500 count packs to the popular hunting bullets as well.
Regards,
Eric
That is an excellent point. I believe that our bullets are also more popular among these shooters. Just another reason why it makes sense to add 500 count packs to the popular hunting bullets as well.
Regards,
Eric
