Using mil dots as a holdover

[fireroad]

Provided one does their homework by calculating ballistic drop and practicing at the range, is it effective to use mil dots as holdovers for quick shots? Or would one be better served using a BDC recticle like Nikoplex or Leupold's B&C? I understand that mil dot was designed for ranging a target, but it seems to me with practice they would make effective holdovers, especially the TMR type recticles.

 

[fireroad]

Think I found the answer to my question...

http://www.ultimatesniper.com/Docs/24.PDF

 

[joel0407]

I use MOA reticle out to 500m with no issue. I trust it to go further but dont get the chance often. I missed my last shot at 1200m by about 2".

 

[DropDead]

Thats good info, just remember that your scope has to be set on the correct power setting, most scopes mill rangeing is calibrated at thier maximum magnification setting.
If your using dots as holdover you could figure out your own info at the range on what ever magnification you wanted. Just be aware that if you change your magnification your data will be wrong.

 

[Michael Eichele]

Using mils as a holdover is very reliable so long as YOU do the math right.

Bullet drop (at range) in inches / 3.6 / (range in yards / 100)

The below example is 253" of drop at 1000 yards.

253" / 3.6 = 70.27 / 10 = Mil holdover value.

 

[lever-hed]

yes, watch the vid:

Horus Vision : System 5#

 

[fireroad]

yes, watch the vid:

Horus Vision : System 5#

That is pretty cool, too bad they don't put them in other people's scopes. Do you own one of their scopes?

 

[mattj]

Thats good info, just remember that your scope has to be set on the correct power setting, most scopes mill rangeing is calibrated at thier maximum magnification setting.
If your using dots as holdover you could figure out your own info at the range on what ever magnification you wanted. Just be aware that if you change your magnification your data will be wrong.

Part of why I've gone FFP and am never going back

 

[fireroad]

Wish I could afford FFP

 

[LouBoyd]

For some of my rifles which have appropriate ballistics I make a little autocad drawing from "Quicktarget" calculations and stick the diagram on the rifle stock. I set the rifle zero to the bottom of the top post to maximize the useable area of the mil-dot scope. Closer than 200 yards the rifle is just shot point blank, in this case with a 4" point blank diameter. The very busy Horus reticle is the same principle. It's oviously more precise. I'd think this is faster and easier. The scope doesn't even have to be calibrated in milliradians, but you do have to know what the calibration is. I don't use Mil-dot for rangefinding. Lasers are much more accurate.

 

[mattj]

Wish I could afford FFP

Check out the Falcon Menace (probably 5-25 version for LRH purposes). You wouldn't be giving up much if anything to any other scope in the price range with adjustable turrets and a usable reticle.

A USO, Premier, or even IOR it ain't, but for the price it rocks.

Just make sure to box test the turrets -- I had one that was off.

 

[joel0407]

Has anyone been able to access Falcon optic's web site lately.

 

[mattj]

It's been down for a while I believe -- they are redoing it I think.

I bought mine from http://www.rwsnydergunsmithing.com

 

[fireroad]

Nope, I have been tryin to access it to check out the 4-14x44 Menace but no luck? Never heard of Falcon before...how's their glass? Warranty? There price seems to go to be true (but so does the Nikon Monarch) and they are **** heavy at almost 27 oz. The weight is a pretty big turnoff, especially when an equivalent Leupold is 16 oz.