Danehunter
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LEICA, no question.
Thanks Greyfox. What is the maximum distance the BR4 will give a firing solution?
I've ranged coyotes and wolves to 1400 yards in the open. Although the bd seems to be an issue an paper I'm not sure it is. Using the same systems for prs and hitting moa plates at all ranges is not issue. Confirm yardage with a terrapin. I could be wrong, please educate, but that bd in the Leica is already one of the best correct? Meaning it is effectively and accurate as is. Not arguing a tighter bd is better or not, just curious if this really that big of a deal for hunting range and applicationLeica's beam divergence is 2X larger than that of the BR4. As a long range tool, that matters most. The farther away the target it, the more that matters. The BD of the Leica is a handicap.
Again, nice glass, but we don't buy rangefinders and ballistic solvers for the same reason we buy spotting scopes.
If it's cost was half as much, I'd say pick the one that matches your socks; otherwise, BR4 wins.
I've read about others having this same problem.I had a Leica 3500 and Kestrell 5700 AB combo last year and it worked well when it worked. The problem was a complete lack of confidence in the pairing of those two units in a hunting situation where time is of the essence.
Leica has confirmed there are erratic pairing issues due to the magnesium housing and the Bluetooth connectivity. The reasoning is beyond my understanding, but I experienced the issues often enough that I couldn't put my faith in the system during a hunting situation.
I sold both the 3500 and Kestrel and now have a BR4 that works amazing as a stand alone unit. Like others have stated, the wind function of the BR4 is one of its greatest benefits. Not to mention it being an ultimately cheaper solution than a 3500 and Kestrel.
Yes, it is a rather well documented issue.I've read about others having this same problem.
Understood. I've had excellent results with my 3200 but also with the sig and br2. I wish Leica or swaro would pair with ab and be done with the bs. I'm not shooting elr but my 3200 will easily range past 3000. Comparison to the vectronix and terrapin was giving same results. I figure well it can't be too bad. I do think for a stand alone lrf the revic makes sense. I liked my br2 except the ungodly size1400 yds on a coyote is impressive!. Texas Rotes are pretty small. There are factors that lessen the value of the BD. If the animal is on a hillside with a bid rock behind it, it won't matter as much. You will get a range reflection from the big rock a few yards behind it and all is well. If the coyote at 1400 was on a cut corn field, it is the only object to reflect the beam, so it may be fine too. Add some clutter or a few objects along the path and the beam divergence is paramount. The steel plates are reflective like that big rock.
I have a buddy that prefers to tinker with the apps and inputs. He uses an older Leica, 2600 I believe. I'm good with that. It's his hunt. My BR4 shines over everything I've used. Admittedly, my last was BR2500 and it was the best I'd used until the BR4. I tried the Leica and sig before that. The best and newest Leica I've seen has to link with a kestrel, except the blue-tooth has a nasty habit of failing. Maybe they've come out with a new one.
By comparison, BR4 is remarkably better than everything else I've seen. It's simple to use, stand alone, fast and dead on accurate. YMMV.
Yup. When I got the BR2500, I would carry it in my hand and range everything; partly because it was too big to fit in anything but my pack, somewhat because I liked to tinker with it, but. I had three problems with that unit:Understood. I've had excellent results with my 3200 but also with the sig and br2. I wish Leica or swaro would pair with ab and be done with the bs. I'm not shooting elr but my 3200 will easily range past 3000. Comparison to the vectronix and terrapin was giving same results. I figure well it can't be too bad. I do think for a stand alone lrf the revic makes sense. I liked my br2 except the ungodly size
Understood. I've had excellent results with my 3200 but also with the sig and br2. I wish Leica or swaro would pair with ab and be done with the bs. I'm not shooting elr but my 3200 will easily range past 3000. Comparison to the vectronix and terrapin was giving same results. I figure well it can't be too bad. I do think for a stand alone lrf the revic makes sense. I liked my br2 except the ungodly size
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