God help us thread

[Orange Dust]

To continue, I believe the election was stolen. There is too much evidence to believe otherwise. If we cannot have a free and honest election, and if everyone does not have to obey the same set of laws we no longer have a Republic.

 

[Treeslug]

Dust, I believe you are better than this. Perhaps you were caught up in the post you were responding to and not thinking objectively. You deserve and you do get the benefit of the doubt.

I think many Americans have forgotten the difference between strong opinion and fact. I hear it all the time. "That's the best looking woman in town, and that's a fact." No, that's not a fact, that's an opinion. Maybe even a widely-held opinion. But not a fact.

Similarly, many Americans have forgotten the distinction between allegations and proof. Just look at how all of the allegations of election fraud have wilted in the face of actual judicial scrutiny. And this by Republican-appointed judges, and Republican Secretaries of State, and other officials. It's not all a Democratic conspiracy. Thank God so many Republicans honor their duty over obedience. I always knew they would!

And there is a difference between rationalization and reason. In your post, you submitted a hypothetical "if-then" as proof. You literally said, "all the proof you need..." Politics aside, let's all agree, that ain't actual proof of anything. I am taking that post of yours as your hyperbole, your puffing, your exuberance.

And I am all for enthusiasm and earnestness, but when it runs into the buzz saw of reality, as in numerous and various state and federal courts of law which find an embarrassing lack of merit, perhaps a reality check is needed. For everyone. For the Union.

When that comical lack of merit is actually trying to overturn the certified votes of the citizens, and the states, I have a real problem with that.

I have a real problem believing that you could dismiss video and sworn testimony of so many people stating their beliefs as simply hyperbole. The very things you are taking for granted are the things that I believe need to be investigated. Your "comical lack of merit is actually trying to overturn the certified votes of the citizens" is so one-sided it sounds ignorant of you to make such a statement. What about the past four years of the illegitimate President Trump babble. Impeachment for no reason. NO REASON.

Your buzzsaw of reality is my chainsaw of reality. And my chainsaw is more real than your buzzsaw. There are far too many FACTS that have been brought forward to simply dismiss the possibility of this election having been stolen by fraudulent means. There are systems in place to give each side a chance to rectify wrongs perpetrated against either side, and this system is still in the process of working.

The matter of that woman being the best looking woman in town is a valid point. If that is a widely held opinion in town, then it deserved some merit even if it is not a fact. As important is the FACT that somewhere around half the citizens of this great country find plenty of reason to believe that this election was won by Donald J. Trump and his party. That, too, deserves a right to be investigated. And if you don't believe that this election should be investigated using every legal means necessary just to pacify a few people, I have a real problem with that.

 

[JMW67]

You know many years ago an old man told me if you get termites in a building and dont address it right away you will be better off burning it down and rebuilding I was not real sure what he was referring to, I am pretty sure I know now grandpa was a smart old man, this was in the mid seventies

 

[Orange Dust]

I have a real problem believing that you could dismiss video and sworn testimony of so many people stating their beliefs as simply hyperbole. The very things you are taking for granted are the things that I believe need to be investigated. Your "comical lack of merit is actually trying to overturn the certified votes of the citizens" is so one-sided it sounds ignorant of you to make such a statement. What about the past four years of the illegitimate President Trump babble. Impeachment for no reason. NO REASON.

Your buzzsaw of reality is my chainsaw of my reality. And my chainsaw is more real than your buzzsaw. There are far too many FACTS that have been brought forward to simply dismiss the possibility of this election having been stolen by fraudulent means. There are systems in place to give each side a chance to rectify wrongs perpetrated against either side, and this system is still in the process of working.

The matter of that woman being the best looking woman in town is a valid point. If that is a widely held opinion in town, then it deserved some merit even if it is not a fact. As important is the FACT that somewhere around half the citizens of this great country find plenty of reason to believe that this election was won by Donald J. Trump and his party. That, too, deserves a right to be investigated. And if you don't believe that this election should be investigated using every legal means necessary just to pacify a few people, I have a real problem with that.

Thank you, I'm not going to type a long message on my phone.

 

[Treeslug]

Thank you, I'm not going to type a long message on my phone.

I could have written a book about that post. I was afraid too many people would have passed it up if I had written something long enough to express my total disgust with that type of giving up minded thinking. He may as well pack up his guns and write a check for 3/4 of his monthly income and give it all to Biden.

 

[Treeslug]

I am neither, nor am I racist, but I am prejudiced. I don't like socialists, no matter their race, nationality, sexual preference or religion

Prejudice means to pre-judge. Biased means that you are informed and take one side or another after making a decision based on that information. A racist is someone that hates themself for being born ignorant. Something like that, I think.

 

[Orange Dust]

Kinda like the fools trying to turn our country into a Democracy. A Democracy is the parents of a little girl voting against three pedophiles on the age of consent. Lit that one sink in.

 

[Treeslug]

Kinda like the fools trying to turn our country into a Democracy. A Democracy is the parents of a little girl voting against three pedophiles on the age of consent. Lit that one sink in.

I have three sons. Having studied pedophilia extensively on the job, I realize that even parents of little boys need to have a great deal of fear for anyone twisted enough harm a child. Gender is not always a consideration for a pedophile on the hunt. And I am certain that some pedophiles somewhere have been voted into office by unknowing parents. We have voted in everything else, why not a pedophile or two. But I do get what you are talking about.

 

[squeeeeze]

I have a real problem believing that you could dismiss video and sworn testimony of so many people stating their beliefs as simply hyperbole. The very things you are taking for granted are the things that I believe need to be investigated. Your "comical lack of merit is actually trying to overturn the certified votes of the citizens" is so one-sided it sounds ignorant of you to make such a statement. What about the past four years of the illegitimate President Trump babble. Impeachment for no reason. NO REASON.

Your buzzsaw of reality is my chainsaw of reality. And my chainsaw is more real than your buzzsaw. There are far too many FACTS that have been brought forward to simply dismiss the possibility of this election having been stolen by fraudulent means. There are systems in place to give each side a chance to rectify wrongs perpetrated against either side, and this system is still in the process of working.

The matter of that woman being the best looking woman in town is a valid point. If that is a widely held opinion in town, then it deserved some merit even if it is not a fact. As important is the FACT that somewhere around half the citizens of this great country find plenty of reason to believe that this election was won by Donald J. Trump and his party. That, too, deserves a right to be investigated. And if you don't believe that this election should be investigated using every legal means necessary just to pacify a few people, I have a real problem with that.

It amazing the double standard. The left loved the anonymous whistleblower when it involved evidence against Trump for the political impeachment hoax. The anonymous whistleblower was labeled as a "hero" then!

Now with the hundreds of sworn affidavits, videos, actual evidence of fraud, and in person sworn testimonial it doesn't merit enough to keep the cases active, or not even making them into courts and cases just getting dismissed??? Why aren't they labeled now as "heroes"??? Even if there wasn't actual evidence (which there is plenty), we all know the left knows no limits and I don't think any of us here would dismiss the fact that they would lie, cheat and do ANYTHING to win the election at ANY cost after everything we've seen from them the last 4 years. Especially all the video and audio evidence of project Veritas with James O'Keefe.

They went from "this is the most secure election In history and there was NO fraud" to "there wasn't widespread voter fraud" to "there isn't enough widespread systemic voter fraud to change the election". Crazy the double standards and the ball keeps moving down the field. There doesn't have to be widespread systemic voter fraud to change the election, it's the swing states in the Democratic run county's that are the main problems.

 

[Treeslug]

It amazing the double standard. The left loved the anonymous whistleblower when it involved evidence against Trump for the political impeachment hoax. The anonymous whistleblower was labeled as a "hero" then!

Now with the hundreds of sworn affidavits, videos, actual evidence of fraud, and in person sworn testimonial it doesn't merit enough to keep the cases active, or not even making them into courts and cases just getting dismissed??? Why aren't they labeled now as "heroes"??? Even if there wasn't actual evidence (which there is plenty), we all know the left knows no limits and I don't think any of us here would dismiss the fact that they would lie, cheat and do ANYTHING to win the election at ANY cost after everything we've seen from them the last 4 years. Especially all the video and audio evidence of project Veritas with James O'Keefe.

They went from "this is the most secure election In history and there was NO fraud" to "there wasn't widespread voter fraud" to "there isn't enough widespread systemic voter fraud to change the election". Crazy the double standards and the ball keeps moving down the field. There doesn't have to be widespread systemic voter fraud to change the election, it's the swing states in the Democratic run county's that are the main problems.

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The left is as crooked as a dog's hind leg. They are so crooked they have to screw their socks on. I am old enough that I do not have to ask how this is happening. I know how it happened, but that does not make it any easier to stomach or believe. The universities have educated two or maybe even three generations of liberal morons that can't get a job because there aren't that many openings for snowflake makers. I am really glad that I am as old as I am. But I pity my grandkids.