which muzzeloader to buy?

Discussion in 'Muzzleloader Hunting' started by jayran, Apr 9, 2009.

  1. jayran

    jayran Well-Known Member

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    I was wondering for long range, say out to 250-300 yds which off the shelf gun would be best? TC,Knight,Savage,????
     
  2. geargrinder

    geargrinder Well-Known Member

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    I've heard a lot of good words about the smokeless Savages.

    I own a couple CVA's and wouldn't recommend them. Here in Nevada we are limited to open sights only. They are good enough for as far as I can shoot with open sights but that's about it.

    The Savage would be my next ML.
     

  3. jayran

    jayran Well-Known Member

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    cool i looked on there website like the accutrigger.
     
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  5. esshup

    esshup Well-Known Member

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    My first muzzleloader was a Savage (somehow I ended up with a low serial number from their first run) and I liked it so much that I have 3 of them now.

    You don't have to clean them every day, and you can shoot a whole range of bullet sizes and weights. You can load them down for small stature shooters, or load them up for bigger stuff. Feral hogs really don't like a .458" 350g Barnes "X' bullet @ 2300 fps!
     
  6. trueblue

    trueblue Well-Known Member

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    If smokeless is legal where you hunt, I wouldn't buy anything but a Savage ML.
    I have one and have developed a load w/300gr Barnes original bullets that will shoot MOA or less to 300 yards. They are great muzzleloaders.
     
  7. nate270

    nate270 Active Member

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    i realy like my Roling block winchester 54 (replica) and with the open sites on the bench pull 6'' groups at 300 yards now because im origonaly from Nevada i ordered the long range rear site like the Bodine site and hit a 55 gal drum at 500 yards most of the time. gun)there are lots of muzzleloaders out there and you need to find one that fits you i have had a few and the rolling block is the best that I have had my plainsman was alright but for it to shoot the range that i wanted needed a different barrel find one for you.
     
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  8. edge

    edge Well-Known Member

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    If smokeless is legal you can get a Savage ML, OR a Savage centerfire and convert it to a ML in something other than 50 caliber...if legal where you hunt.

    BH209 gets very close to Savage velocities and is pretty clean.

    edge.
     
  9. nate270

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    Looks like a modern cartridge rifle...kinda takes away what a traditional muzzleloading rifle is supposed to be. I don't understand why people even bother with them...other than just extending a season.
     
  11. peashooter

    peashooter Well-Known Member

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    I'm shooting the Savage 10ML with 40gr. of Vht. N110 . shoots consistently moa with hornady 250 gr. SST. What powder you using with the 300 gr. Barnes? I can't get AA 5744 to group or generate vbelocities over 1950fps.
    peashooter
     
  12. edge

    edge Well-Known Member

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    IMO, this is Muzzleloader Hunting, and NOT traditional Muzzleloading!
    Just as in archery, some folks build their own bows and some folks enjoy compounds!

    I think that they all apply in hunting, if they are not for you then stick to what you enjoy.

    On other forums I have seen folks complain of smokeless but advocate black powder substitutes. IMO, if it loads from the muzzle then it is a muzzleloader. Enjoy the sport as you see fit :)

    edge.
     
  13. esshup

    esshup Well-Known Member

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    Try 60 grains of H-4198 ignited by 10g of VV N-110 under the 300g bullet. (10 grains of N-110 down the tube first, followed by the H-4198 then the sabot/bullet. It should be good for right around 2450 fps.
     
  14. HAWKEYE50ML

    HAWKEYE50ML Member

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    Consider this one...
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