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<blockquote data-quote="redneckbmxer24" data-source="post: 3059874" data-attributes="member: 11459"><p>The best is Lapua, ADG, and Alpha. There is absolutely no disputing the fact that these brands produce the absolute most consistent and ready to load brass right out of the box, has the best lot to lot consistency and lasts the longest.</p><p></p><p>The best value brass is Starline. Out of the box it's very consistent in weight, primer pockets, neck length and headspace and doesn't have nasty burrs on the flash holes. You'll need to run an expander mandrel through it and chamfer it though because they get dinged up in shipping. I had no problem getting ES's around 10fps and great accuracy on initial loadings doing nothing more than that with a lot of their 224V, 243, 6CM, and 6.5CM. It did always have a couple thousandths more runout on the initial firing than the premium stuff but after that there was no difference at all between it at the premium stuff measuring runout or groups on paper and accuracy at distance.</p><p></p><p>Remington brass is good but requires a lot more prep in my experience and can be pretty inconsistent for the first firing as far as headspace and runout which can lead to a lot of inconsistent results during load development. Shooting factory ammo to fire form solves that problem though and core lokt is cheap for a lot of loadings and makes good break in ammo which is always a good thing do to before starting load development anyway. Not great weight consistency, but not bad either.</p><p></p><p>Winchester component brass was decent at one point but then I started getting batches that 10-20% of the cases had folds in the necks and shoulders in every batch and was trash. They must have some QC check for it in the loaded ammo because I've never seen that in their boxed ammo. Like Remington, getting factory ammo and shooting it and then loading it works out well with some brass prep.</p><p></p><p>I was pretty unimpressed with Nosler and Peterson the little I used it as well. I wouldn't spend my money on it unless it was my only choice.</p><p></p><p>I can't take anyone seriously that thinks Hornady and Norma is good brass, they're the absolute softest worst brass I have ever used. It's typical for half of the brass to have loose primer pockets after the first firing with loads that aren't high pressure at all and after the second firing you throw away half of what's left again. Absolute junk compared to other options on the market. I would never spend money on it and will rarely even load it when I have 1x fired brass from shooting factory ammo.</p><p></p><p>Federal is pretty soft too and I'd never spend money on it but if I have it from once fired factory ammo in that rifle I'll use it. The FGMM brass is actually pretty good, just expect to trim it more than some others but I do every firing anyways. It's usually good for 5-10 firings depending on how you load it, annealing, and what your expectations are. I've never had it lose pockets like Norma and Hornady though so it must be tougher in the case head even if it is softer brass.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="redneckbmxer24, post: 3059874, member: 11459"] The best is Lapua, ADG, and Alpha. There is absolutely no disputing the fact that these brands produce the absolute most consistent and ready to load brass right out of the box, has the best lot to lot consistency and lasts the longest. The best value brass is Starline. Out of the box it's very consistent in weight, primer pockets, neck length and headspace and doesn't have nasty burrs on the flash holes. You'll need to run an expander mandrel through it and chamfer it though because they get dinged up in shipping. I had no problem getting ES's around 10fps and great accuracy on initial loadings doing nothing more than that with a lot of their 224V, 243, 6CM, and 6.5CM. It did always have a couple thousandths more runout on the initial firing than the premium stuff but after that there was no difference at all between it at the premium stuff measuring runout or groups on paper and accuracy at distance. Remington brass is good but requires a lot more prep in my experience and can be pretty inconsistent for the first firing as far as headspace and runout which can lead to a lot of inconsistent results during load development. Shooting factory ammo to fire form solves that problem though and core lokt is cheap for a lot of loadings and makes good break in ammo which is always a good thing do to before starting load development anyway. Not great weight consistency, but not bad either. Winchester component brass was decent at one point but then I started getting batches that 10-20% of the cases had folds in the necks and shoulders in every batch and was trash. They must have some QC check for it in the loaded ammo because I've never seen that in their boxed ammo. Like Remington, getting factory ammo and shooting it and then loading it works out well with some brass prep. I was pretty unimpressed with Nosler and Peterson the little I used it as well. I wouldn't spend my money on it unless it was my only choice. I can't take anyone seriously that thinks Hornady and Norma is good brass, they're the absolute softest worst brass I have ever used. It's typical for half of the brass to have loose primer pockets after the first firing with loads that aren't high pressure at all and after the second firing you throw away half of what's left again. Absolute junk compared to other options on the market. I would never spend money on it and will rarely even load it when I have 1x fired brass from shooting factory ammo. Federal is pretty soft too and I'd never spend money on it but if I have it from once fired factory ammo in that rifle I'll use it. The FGMM brass is actually pretty good, just expect to trim it more than some others but I do every firing anyways. It's usually good for 5-10 firings depending on how you load it, annealing, and what your expectations are. I’ve never had it lose pockets like Norma and Hornady though so it must be tougher in the case head even if it is softer brass. [/QUOTE]
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