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Weatherby Vanguard TR
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<blockquote data-quote="MontanaRifleman" data-source="post: 845257" data-attributes="member: 11717"><p>If you know much about the history of the Howa Vanguard actions, Weatherby contracted Howa, way back when, to build an economic introduction level rifle/action for Weatherby and to use the Mark V as the model. The Howa action does in fact have many of the same features as the Mark V, the main differences being the length (Howas are a little shorter) and the bolt. Both are one piece bolts but the Mark V's have the 6 and 9 little lug configurations which IMO are marketing gimmicks that leave a lot to be desired from a functional engineering point of view. I much prefer the beefy 3 lug bolts.</p><p></p><p>I don't buy Howas, Vanguards or any rifle to "feel special". I'm not that insecure. If I want a "special" action I would get a good custom action vs a factory mass produced product. That said the mass produced Vanguards serve me very well and I've done 2 builds on them so far with more planned.</p><p></p><p>As for strength and engineerig.... the Mark V's are a good strong action but how much stronger than a Howa is pure speculation.... which I doubt you have real data or basis to claim, just like you have no data to claim that a "7 RM can out pound a 300 WM".... just BS is all.</p><p></p><p>So, how exactly, are the Mark V's engineered any differently than the Howa's other than the itty bitty lugs?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MontanaRifleman, post: 845257, member: 11717"] If you know much about the history of the Howa Vanguard actions, Weatherby contracted Howa, way back when, to build an economic introduction level rifle/action for Weatherby and to use the Mark V as the model. The Howa action does in fact have many of the same features as the Mark V, the main differences being the length (Howas are a little shorter) and the bolt. Both are one piece bolts but the Mark V's have the 6 and 9 little lug configurations which IMO are marketing gimmicks that leave a lot to be desired from a functional engineering point of view. I much prefer the beefy 3 lug bolts. I don't buy Howas, Vanguards or any rifle to "feel special". I'm not that insecure. If I want a "special" action I would get a good custom action vs a factory mass produced product. That said the mass produced Vanguards serve me very well and I've done 2 builds on them so far with more planned. As for strength and engineerig.... the Mark V's are a good strong action but how much stronger than a Howa is pure speculation.... which I doubt you have real data or basis to claim, just like you have no data to claim that a "7 RM can out pound a 300 WM".... just BS is all. So, how exactly, are the Mark V's engineered any differently than the Howa's other than the itty bitty lugs? [/QUOTE]
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