Tinfoil Hats?

[Orange Dust]

Visited the Remington plant today to beg for ammo. They let me buy about 10% of what I need for competition. I asked my snitch what gives??? My old snitch got fired (loose lips??) for some unknown reason. He said the plant is running 24 hours and many employees are working 14hr shifts due to the labor shortage. SO where's all the ammo they are producing? He said every round is going to a warehouse / distribution center in Minnesota. He has no idea where it goes from there and neither does anyone else in his pay grade. I told him I have not seen any Remington ammo for sale in two years. He said he hadn't seen any either. They also stopped all ammo and component sales to employees. That has always been a perk for them. They bought it at cost. He said he heard through the grapevine that all Federal's ammo is also going to the same place. Could be since they are the same company now. He also told me they laid off their entire Sales Force. They were told they were no longer needed. No tinfoil here, but I don't trust anyone that lives in the beltway in DC either. Hummm! One thing I do know is we are all being lied to, I just don't know to what extent or the true purpose for it.

 

[DUCKMAN11]

The constitution protects our right to bear arms....not buy ammunition. They can't "executive order" the guns away but they can control ammunition and the raw materials used to create it. Kinda like what they are doing with fuels. They can't make you stop using it but they can make it so expensive that the peasants can't afford it. Maybe my view is a little "tin foil" but just look at the "laptop" and "virus" and how the narrative has changed in the last 30 days.

Also the only 25-06 ammunition I've seen on the shelves in 2 years is Remington green and yellow box.

 

[xsn10s]

I don't see anything nefarious here. Vista Outdoors owns Remington Ammunition, CCI, and Federal. Federal is based in Anoka Minnesota and given they have well established distribution there I don't see anything to heat up my tinfoil over that. no disrespect intend. Just calling it the way I see it.

 

[Reelamin]

I fully agree we are being lied to by all government and large corporations. It had risen to a new level and a new level of more people finally recognizing.

 

[xsn10s]

As far as components being sold to employees some employees were buying components and reselling them at price gouging prices. This was very frowned upon in the industry. And that could be a reason why Remington stopped that practice.

 

[DUCKMAN11]

I don't see anything nefarious here. Vista Outdoors owns Remington Ammunition, CCI, and Federal. Federal is based in Anoka Minnesota and given they have well established distribution there I don't see anything to heat up my tinfoil over that. no disrespect intend. Just calling it the way I see it.

I didn't know that's where their hub was. But it still doesn't explain where the ammo is. Let's say 1 Remington machine can make 1 round of 30-06 a second and it's running 24hrs a day. That's 86,400 rounds per day per machine. Let's call it 80k rounds. Maybe that's way too much for one machine so cut it in half at 40k rounds.....thats 2k boxes of 30-06 in 1 24hr period. You would think that someone somewhere would be seeing Remington ammo

 

[xsn10s]

I didn't know that's where their hub was. But it still doesn't explain where the ammo is. Let's say 1 Remington machine can make 1 round of 30-06 a second and it's running 24hrs a day. That's 86,400 rounds per day per machine. Let's call it 80k rounds. Maybe that's way too much for one machine so cut it in half at 40k rounds.....thats 2k boxes of 30-06 in 1 24hr period. You would think that someone somewhere would be seeing Remington ammo

Our local guns store is seeing ammo, powder, primer shipments every week. Sometimes a couple of times a week. And i live in a pretty rural area. The county has maybe 20-30k residents.

 

[DUCKMAN11]

The comedian Chris Rock had a stand up bit that was talking about crime and black on black violence "if I remember correctly". Anywho.... the in the bit he said "make 1 bullet cost 20k each and gun crimes would stop" and "if someone did get shot you know they had it coming cause someone had to take out a loan to pull that trigger". It was a funny joke but I think "THEY" took it as a decent strategy.

 

[Reelamin]

I didn't know that's where their hub was. But it still doesn't explain where the ammo is. Let's say 1 Remington machine can make 1 round of 30-06 a second and it's running 24hrs a day. That's 86,400 rounds per day per machine. Let's call it 80k rounds. Maybe that's way too much for one machine so cut it in half at 40k rounds.....thats 2k boxes of 30-06 in 1 24hr period. You would think that someone somewhere would be seeing Remington ammo

I have been seeing Remington ammo in three western states the last two months. All different core lokt rifle ammo.

 

[Orange Dust]

I didn't know that's where their hub was. But it still doesn't explain where the ammo is. Let's say 1 Remington machine can make 1 round of 30-06 a second and it's running 24hrs a day. That's 86,400 rounds per day per machine. Let's call it 80k rounds. Maybe that's way too much for one machine so cut it in half at 40k rounds.....thats 2k boxes of 30-06 in 1 24hr period. You would think that someone somewhere would be seeing Remington ammo

I used to know. I used to make sales calls on them years ago. I do know a Mark 7 reloader will load at about a 3k per hour rate. These machines look much faster than that running. They have a bunch of them too. Shotshell machines are slower. Maybe about like a MK7. They also have a lot more stations in the process than we do. Also, inquiring minds want to know why mostly FMJ ammo shows up in stores. Buckshot for shotguns. Makes no sense whatsoever, and does not mirror production. Maybe if someone told them folks are sitting on 8 Trillion rounds from Obama they would let up. So stupid. You cannot make me believe all the new folks are buying up all the 410 and 28 ga skeet loads. They are running them nonstop. when only a couple of companies control most all of the production, manipulation is pretty easy. Socialists have been saying that since I was a boy.

 

[Orange Dust]

One thing is for certain. If someone or someones are cornering the market they will lose their shirt before its over. If its the Government, the taxpayers will eat it. If its a group of Billionaires, they no longer will be.

 

[762x51]

i've had no problem finding ammo anywhere. online, local gun stores and even the big box stores have had it (cabelas and bass pro). it's super overpriced at cabelas and bass pro, so i rarely buy it. my LGS has been very reasonable and they have tons of it. if remington wants to send all their ammo to sit in a warehouse in MN, then good for them. not sure how that helps out in the long run.

 

[Orange Dust]

I don't see anything nefarious here. Vista Outdoors owns Remington Ammunition, CCI, and Federal. Federal is based in Anoka Minnesota and given they have well established distribution there I don't see anything to heat up my tinfoil over that. no disrespect intend. Just calling it the way I see it.

AND it is very possible that is why they fired the entire sales staff @ Remington. Everything could actually be on the up and up. It's just that at least some folks at the plant don't think so, and the motive for my post in the first place. If those folks smell a rat it will be stinking to high heaven by the time it reaches us.

 

[762x51]

The comedian Chris Rock had a stand up bit that was talking about crime and black on black violence "if I remember correctly". Anywho.... the in the bit he said "make 1 bullet cost 20k each and gun crimes would stop" and "if someone did get shot you know they had it coming cause someone had to take out a loan to pull that trigger". It was a funny joke but I think "THEY" took it as a decent strategy.

i think that's the strategy the demoturds are implementing. look at NYC, you can't buy a pistol there unless you're rich/famous/connected. background checks for ammo in California.

the government has been putting up roadblocks to erode our freedoms for a long time. look at the NFA of 1934, you had to pay $200 for a "stamp". that was a ton of money back in 1934. in 2022 that would be $4200. imagine if that was the cost to obtain a suppressor these days? nobody would have them.

also, gun makers can now be sued for the misuse of their product. they can't ban them, they'll just make it too expensive for anyone to make them.