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The “other” hpbt bullets for hunting?
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<blockquote data-quote="bigngreen" data-source="post: 1665392" data-attributes="member: 13632"><p>The seam blood shot seems to come from a high energy opening just under the hide, I think, it blows up the blood vessels for a ways and if your bullet does not travel through the vitals in a way that does an immediate blood pressure dump you'll get blood pushed an amazing ways up the seams. Not hard to clean out since you can just seam it out and pick it up with a small boning hook, needless to say I've seen a PILE of it. Most meat cutters will just throw all of it away but with the methods I learned we could very quickly and cleanly removed it all and still retain a high yield of good meat, the hard part is if you combine that with a shoulder hit where you have bone frag through out that jello then you end up losing more meat just because you can't clean it all up. </p><p></p><p>The worst I personally have done was a cow elk at 250 ish, 140 Accubond starting at 3350 fps, hit high but below spine and it shocked her spine and she dropped, she got up on her front feet and got into a swale where I could not get another shot from my position, she was alive for seconds till I was able to get a little higher, at that time I was running Accubonds in the top of the mag then a 140 Berger at 3300 fps under it so the second hit was a Berger 140 about 6 inches lower and there was a pencil hole in that had just a small bruise around it then her heart was pulped dropping blood pressure like a rock.</p><p>Personally unless I'm trying to test a specific shot placement with a certain bullet I always try to shoot them so the bullet detaches the Aorta from the heart which is an immediate pressure drop and they black out within seconds, I worked a little with a vet to try to determine the quickest, surest shot placement and ideally we would drop the blood pressure, collapse the lungs and cut the spinal cord at the same time which is impossible so I go for two of the three with the Aorta and lungs. I see very, very little blood shot for that hit and I think it is because of the nearly immediate drop in pressure and little energy release on the entrance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bigngreen, post: 1665392, member: 13632"] The seam blood shot seems to come from a high energy opening just under the hide, I think, it blows up the blood vessels for a ways and if your bullet does not travel through the vitals in a way that does an immediate blood pressure dump you'll get blood pushed an amazing ways up the seams. Not hard to clean out since you can just seam it out and pick it up with a small boning hook, needless to say I've seen a PILE of it. Most meat cutters will just throw all of it away but with the methods I learned we could very quickly and cleanly removed it all and still retain a high yield of good meat, the hard part is if you combine that with a shoulder hit where you have bone frag through out that jello then you end up losing more meat just because you can't clean it all up. The worst I personally have done was a cow elk at 250 ish, 140 Accubond starting at 3350 fps, hit high but below spine and it shocked her spine and she dropped, she got up on her front feet and got into a swale where I could not get another shot from my position, she was alive for seconds till I was able to get a little higher, at that time I was running Accubonds in the top of the mag then a 140 Berger at 3300 fps under it so the second hit was a Berger 140 about 6 inches lower and there was a pencil hole in that had just a small bruise around it then her heart was pulped dropping blood pressure like a rock. Personally unless I'm trying to test a specific shot placement with a certain bullet I always try to shoot them so the bullet detaches the Aorta from the heart which is an immediate pressure drop and they black out within seconds, I worked a little with a vet to try to determine the quickest, surest shot placement and ideally we would drop the blood pressure, collapse the lungs and cut the spinal cord at the same time which is impossible so I go for two of the three with the Aorta and lungs. I see very, very little blood shot for that hit and I think it is because of the nearly immediate drop in pressure and little energy release on the entrance. [/QUOTE]
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