SLOOW powders!!!

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  1. Randy in Va

    Randy in Va Well-Known Member

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    Doing research on powders slower than RE25.

    I Found one I can find nothing about, Hogdon 570. Also Accurate 8700 and VV24N41. How can I learn the relative burn rates of powders? I know that VV24N41 is rated at 38 and the 50 powder VV20N29 is 36 (from VV Manual). Would love to find all listed with RE25 as the fastest!

    Can anyone help?

    Thanx
     
  2. Darryl Cassel

    Darryl Cassel Well-Known Member

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    Randy

    Check your Email.

    DC
     

  3. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

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    Here you go Randy.

    crow mag
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    Member # 528 posted 01-31-2003 03:24 PM

    Here is a chart From Fastest To Slowest

    1. NORMA R1
    2. Vihtavuori N310
    3. Hodgdon TITEWAD
    4. Alliant Red Dot
    5. Hodgdon Clays
    6. IMR, Co "HI-Skor" 700-X
    7. Alliant Bullseye
    8. Hodgdon TITEGROUP
    9. Alliant American Select
    10. Accurate Arms Solo 1000
    11. Alliant Green Dot
    12. Hodgdon International
    13. IMR, Co PB
    14. Vihtavuori N320
    15. Winchester WST
    16. Accurate Arms No. 2
    17. IMR, Co SR 7625
    18. Hodgdon HP-38
    19. Winchester 231
    20. Alliant Unique
    21. Hodgbdon Universal
    22. Alliant Power Pistol
    23. Vihtavuori N330
    24. Alliant Herco
    25. Winchester WSF
    26. Vihtavuori N340
    27. IMR, Co "HI-Skor" 800-X
    28. IMR, Co SR4756
    29. Accurate Arms No. 5
    30. Hodgdon HS-6
    31. Vihtavuori 3N37
    32. Vihtavuori N350
    33. Hodgdon HS-7
    34. Alliant Blue Dot
    35. Accurate Arms No. 7
    36. Hodgdon LONGSHOT
    37. Alliant 2400
    38. Accurate Arms No. 9
    39. NORMA R123
    40. Vihtavuori N110
    41. Hodgdon LIL'GUN
    42. Hodgdon H110
    43. Winchester 296
    44. IMR, Co. IMR4227
    45. Hodgdon H4227
    46. IMR, Co SR4759
    47. Accurate Arms 1680
    48. NORMA 200
    49. Alliant Reloder 7
    50. IMR, Co IMR4198
    51. Hodgdon H4198
    52. Vihtavuori N120
    53. Hodgdon H322
    54. Accurate Arms 2015 BR
    55. Vihtavuori N130
    56. IMR, Co IMR3031
    57. Vihtavuori N133
    58. Hodgdon BENCHMARK
    59. Hodgdon H335
    60. Vihtavuori N135
    61. Accurate Arms 2230
    62. Accurate Arms 2460
    63. Hodgdon H4895
    64. IMR, Co IMR4895
    65. Alliant Reloder 12
    66. IMR, Co IMR4320
    67. Accurate Arms 2495BR
    68. IMR, Co IMR4064
    69. NORMA 202
    70. Accurate Arms 2520
    71. Alliant Reloder 15
    72. Vihtavuori N140
    73. Hodgdon VARGET
    74. Winchester 748
    75. Hodgdon BL-C(2)
    76. Hodgdon H380
    77. Winchester 760
    78. Hodgdon H414
    79. Vihtavuori N150
    80. Accurate Arms 2700
    81. IMR, Co IMR4350
    82. Hodgdon H4350
    83. Accurate Arms 4350
    84. NORMA 204
    85. Vihtavuori N550
    86. Alliant Reloder 19
    87. IMR, Co IMR4831
    88. Accurate Arms 3100
    89. Vihtavuori N160
    90. Hodgdon H4831 & H4831 SC
    91. NORMA MRP
    92. Alliant Reloder 22
    93. Vihtavuori N165
    94. IMR, Co IMR7828
    95. Vihtavuori N170
    96. Hodgdon H1000
    97. Alliant Reloder 25
    98. Hodgdon Retumbo
    99. Accurate Arms 8700
    100. Hodgdon H870
    101. Vihtavuori 24N41
    102. Hodgdon H50BMG
    103. Vihtavuori 20N29
    [ 01-31-2003: Message edited by: crow mag ]

    Posts: 194 | From: mi | Registered: Mar 2002 | IP: Logged

    That one posted fine.

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    The products listed below are those currently offered by each respective company. Products are in order of fast to slow burn rate.

    Accurate Arms
    Alliant
    Hodgdon
    IMR (more&#8595 [​IMG]

    Solo 1000
    Nitro 100
    Solo 1250
    No. 2 Improved
    No. 5
    No. 7
    No. 9
    4100
    1680
    XMP-5744
    XMR-2015
    2230
    2460
    XMR-2495
    2520
    XMR-4064
    2700
    XMR-4350
    XMR-3100
    8700

    Bullseye
    Red Dot
    American Select
    Green Dot
    Unique
    Power Pistol
    Herco
    Blue Dot
    Steel
    2400
    Reloder 7
    Reloder 15
    Reloder 19
    Reloder 22
    Reloder 25 TITEWAD
    HP-38
    CLAYS
    INTERNATIONAL
    TITEGROUP
    UNIVERSAL
    HS-6
    LONGSHOT
    HS-7
    H110
    LIL'GUN
    H4227
    H4198
    H322
    BENCHMARK
    H4895
    H335
    VARGET
    BL-C(2)
    H380
    H414
    H4350
    H4831
    H4831SC
    H1000
    RETUMBO
    H870
    H50BMG 700-X
    800-X
    PB
    SR 7625
    SR 4756
    SR 4759
    IMR 4227
    IMR 4198
    IMR 3031
    IMR 4064
    IMR 4895
    IMR 4320
    IMR 4350
    IMR 4831
    IMR 7828
    Nobel - Vectan
    Norma
    RamShot
    Vihtavuori (more&#8595 [​IMG]

    Ba 10
    As
    A1
    Ba9
    Ao
    Sp8
    Sp3
    Ba6
    Tu 2000
    Tu 3000
    Sp10
    Sp9
    Sp7
    Tu 5000
    Tu 7000
    Tu 8000 200
    201
    202
    203B
    204
    MRP
    MRP-2 COMPETITION
    ZIP
    SILHOUETTE
    TRUE BLUE
    ENFORCER
    X-TERMINATOR
    TAC
    BIG GAME
    MAGNUM
    N310
    N320
    N330
    N340
    3N37
    N350
    N105
    N110
    N120
    N130
    N133
    N135
    N140
    N540
    N150
    N555
    N160
    N560
    N165
    Winchester

    231
    296
    748
    760
    WSF
    WST
    WXR


    Hmmmmm???
     
  4. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

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    Accurate Arms

    Solo 1000
    Nitro 100
    Solo 1250
    No. 2 Improved
    No. 5
    No. 7
    No. 9
    4100
    1680
    XMP-5744
    XMR-2015
    2230
    2460
    XMR-2495
    2520
    XMR-4064
    2700
    XMR-4350
    XMR-3100
    8700


    Alliant

    Bullseye
    Red Dot
    American Select
    Green Dot
    Unique
    Power Pistol
    Herco
    Blue Dot
    Steel
    2400
    Reloder 7
    Reloder 15
    Reloder 19
    Reloder 22
    Reloder 25


    Hodgdon

    TITEWAD
    HP-38
    CLAYS
    INTERNATIONAL
    TITEGROUP
    UNIVERSAL
    HS-6
    LONGSHOT
    HS-7
    H110
    LIL'GUN
    H4227
    H4198
    H322
    BENCHMARK
    H4895
    H335
    VARGET
    BL-C(2)
    H380
    H414
    H4350
    H4831
    H4831SC
    H1000
    RETUMBO
    H870
    H50BMG


    IMR

    700-X
    800-X
    PB
    SR 7625
    SR 4756
    SR 4759
    IMR 4227
    IMR 4198
    IMR 3031
    IMR 4064
    IMR 4895
    IMR 4320
    IMR 4350
    IMR 4831
    IMR 7828


    Nobel - Vectan

    Ba 10
    As
    A1
    Ba9
    Ao
    Sp8
    Sp3
    Ba6
    Tu 2000
    Tu 3000
    Sp10
    Sp9
    Sp7
    Tu 5000
    Tu 7000
    Tu 8000


    Norma

    200
    201
    202
    203B
    204
    MRP
    MRP-2


    RamShot

    COMPETITION
    ZIP
    SILHOUETTE
    TRUE BLUE
    ENFORCER
    X-TERMINATOR
    TAC
    BIG GAME
    MAGNUM


    Vihtavuori (more&#8595 [​IMG]

    N310
    N320
    N330
    N340
    3N37
    N350
    N105
    N110
    N120
    N130
    N133
    N135
    N140
    N540
    N150
    N555
    N160
    N560
    N165


    Winchester

    231
    296
    748
    760
    WSF
    WST
    WXR


    That's the way it should read...
     
  5. winmagman

    winmagman Well-Known Member

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    Brent, That's a very helpful list, Thanks. I'm looking to reload some 300 win mag rounds and was thinking of H-1000, H-4831, Reloader 22 or 25, any suggestions? (26" Barrel 190gr SMK.)
     
  6. Brent

    Brent Well-Known Member

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    I only loaded for mine for a short while before sending it off to be converted into the 30/338 Lapua Imp. I was using RL22 and 180 Scirocco's and getting under moa at 100 yards at 76.5gr and 3.520 OAL, .015" off the lands. Work up to this load though. I still have a bunch of 165gn and 150gr Scirocco's loaded up I never even got out to test.
     
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    H-1000
     
  8. Randy in Va

    Randy in Va Well-Known Member

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    BRENT, thanx for the special effort. Has anyone else seen the relevant burning rate published for this same group as I know the burning rate of VV slowest two is 36 and 38 for what I presume is a difference of 1/18th difference???

    Familiar to anybody?

    Thanx
     
  9. HarryN

    HarryN Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the great powder info.
     
  10. T3-OleMan

    T3-OleMan Well-Known Member

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    Harry, hope you noticed the DATA is 11 years old in that post.gun)
    Good luck.
     
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  12. Lefty7mmstw

    Lefty7mmstw Well-Known Member

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    Some of us have powder that is 11 years old (or more) on the shelf.:D
    I just bought a pound of rl25 at a lgs that said new on it; rl25 was new 'roundabouts '04.
     
  13. T3-OleMan

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    Yep. Still got 5 cans, same lot, of the old WINCHESTER WMR that ain't even on the current Winchester burn list. Got it in 1992 and used 54.5gr in my 270 for the 140gr Black Talons. Them were the days......Government did not lie as much back then...LOL.:cool:
     
  14. elkaholic

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    Randy.....looks like most of your questions have been answered, so forgive me if this has already been covered. H570 is long gone and was an extruded powder with the same burning rate as H870, a ball powder, which was also discontinued a few years ago by Hodgdon. It is still available as military surplus and is marketed by Thunderbird cartridge co. in Az., under the name T870. It is a very good powder in the big magnums giving good accuracy, and top velocities in many cases. It is a pretty dirty powder; however. Hope this helps.......Rich