The S&B Precision Hunters are superior. If you use Mil/Mil then there is not much better scope on the market adjustment and especially clarity wise. You will pick up at lease 15 mins morning and night of shooting time with this scope. I use M4's and Night force each has there positive such as the M4 weight saving but S&B glass is superior and the scopes are the strongest on the market. When you spend 10k + on a hunt the extra shooting time is VERY valuable. You wont be sorry, I sold one and regret to this day.