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<blockquote data-quote="Trickymissfit" data-source="post: 1155688" data-attributes="member: 25383"><p>you and I probably know more about what these clowns have done over the last twenty years, than 98% of the rest of the folks on the board. I've seen the results first hand.</p><p></p><p>Over the last ten years we've watched one foundry after another fold up from pressure from the EPA (OHSA isn't really all that big a deal once you learn the system). Still many have survived. Steel mills have now moved from using coke to electric (natural gas?), and now are moving into vacum systems. Just costs a lot more money, and prices reflect it. Redding for example has all it's castings poured in PA., and then shipped to New York for machining. Forster is similar as well as Lee. The funny thing about RCBS is that they only assemble presses here and box them. You'd think that go head and finish it in China. Here's why. A few years back, all you had to do was to package the part here and it was now U.S. made. They broke that up when they cracked Ford's butt a few years back. </p><p></p><p>Gun writers don't want to discuss this, because RCBS, Hornaday, and Lyman won't give them anymore free stuff. Samething with some rifle manufacturers too (think Layne). Yes it costs a lot of dollars to retool up and existing machine. (pretty much the samething you paid for the machine). Yet most of the existing companies are simply shipping their tooling (and machinery in some cases) to China and Korea. What money did you save here? You simply sent "X" amount of jobs to China to save move and make the consumer price cheaper. Yet you didn't you did not reduce the price a dime! You instead lined your pockets with the money you saved.</p><p></p><p>Content laws are rapidly changing thanks to tricks pulled off by Ford a few years back. The Feds stepped in, and discounted assembly, and made everybody go by part content in North America. Some take Mexico out of the North America equation, and some include Mexico. Ford includes Mexico, G.M. calls Mexico out separate, and think Chrysler is similar to Ford. Honda seems to be one of the better content manufacturers over here, and actually ships cars to Japan! It's getting ready to make another serious turn as society has once again roared it's voice. No matter who is elected, he will install a massive tariff (or be unelectable). Look for 20% to as high as 35% price increases, or you'll bring the jobs back home. Reloading equipment is nickel and dime compared to the big boys, but still counts. Yet the Fed knows little difference between a five billion dollar net and a five million dollar net. They look at tax dollars they're loosing in the economy (wages, social security, and excise), and don't think the states don't think that way as well. RCBS probably has about ten dollars in a standard die set cut in China. Heat treat will be very suspect as Asian metallurgy is a well known joke. But rest assured RCBS is still gonna charge you the same price they did a year or two ago. They're just a little too greedy! They don't give a rats *** about the consumer</p><p></p><p>gary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Trickymissfit, post: 1155688, member: 25383"] you and I probably know more about what these clowns have done over the last twenty years, than 98% of the rest of the folks on the board. I've seen the results first hand. Over the last ten years we've watched one foundry after another fold up from pressure from the EPA (OHSA isn't really all that big a deal once you learn the system). Still many have survived. Steel mills have now moved from using coke to electric (natural gas?), and now are moving into vacum systems. Just costs a lot more money, and prices reflect it. Redding for example has all it's castings poured in PA., and then shipped to New York for machining. Forster is similar as well as Lee. The funny thing about RCBS is that they only assemble presses here and box them. You'd think that go head and finish it in China. Here's why. A few years back, all you had to do was to package the part here and it was now U.S. made. They broke that up when they cracked Ford's butt a few years back. Gun writers don't want to discuss this, because RCBS, Hornaday, and Lyman won't give them anymore free stuff. Samething with some rifle manufacturers too (think Layne). Yes it costs a lot of dollars to retool up and existing machine. (pretty much the samething you paid for the machine). Yet most of the existing companies are simply shipping their tooling (and machinery in some cases) to China and Korea. What money did you save here? You simply sent "X" amount of jobs to China to save move and make the consumer price cheaper. Yet you didn't you did not reduce the price a dime! You instead lined your pockets with the money you saved. Content laws are rapidly changing thanks to tricks pulled off by Ford a few years back. The Feds stepped in, and discounted assembly, and made everybody go by part content in North America. Some take Mexico out of the North America equation, and some include Mexico. Ford includes Mexico, G.M. calls Mexico out separate, and think Chrysler is similar to Ford. Honda seems to be one of the better content manufacturers over here, and actually ships cars to Japan! It's getting ready to make another serious turn as society has once again roared it's voice. No matter who is elected, he will install a massive tariff (or be unelectable). Look for 20% to as high as 35% price increases, or you'll bring the jobs back home. Reloading equipment is nickel and dime compared to the big boys, but still counts. Yet the Fed knows little difference between a five billion dollar net and a five million dollar net. They look at tax dollars they're loosing in the economy (wages, social security, and excise), and don't think the states don't think that way as well. RCBS probably has about ten dollars in a standard die set cut in China. Heat treat will be very suspect as Asian metallurgy is a well known joke. But rest assured RCBS is still gonna charge you the same price they did a year or two ago. They're just a little too greedy! They don't give a rats *** about the consumer gary [/QUOTE]
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