range finders

Discussion in 'Long Range Scopes and Other Optics' started by jeff 300, Aug 12, 2009.

  1. jeff 300

    jeff 300 Well-Known Member

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    what does every one think of the ziess prf range finder over the swarovski. get the + and -'s to both.
     
  2. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    Depends on what and how far you are going to range. Last week in Wyoming we had all 3 of the newest modles side by side. Swaro, Leica, and zeiss. We were ranging a tree mid day, partly overcast. Range was something like 1150 yards. Swaro was reading once out of every 3 or 4 tries. Leica was hitting it every time. Both Swaro and Leica was getting with in one yard of each other and the Zeiss was reading 100 yards less. This was not a great test and by no means draws any form of a conclusion. But I own both a Leica and a Swaro and for me, I have a hard time deciding which one I like best.

    I tested the two I own ( Swaro & Leica) on brown cows in bright sun once and the Swaro ranged furthest. But the Leica is smaller, easier to carry and way, way faster.

    At this point my advice would be, get a Leica and a Swaro OUTSIDE and test them your self. They are both good units. One more note, if you care about warranty repairs. I have owned many swaro products and I have had 2 rangefinders, and a pair of bino's repaired. FAST, Frendly impecable service at no cost!! I have never sent in a Leica for repair so I can't coment on their repair service.

    Thats all I know today..:)

    Jeff
     

  3. NJS

    NJS Well-Known Member

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    I have had a Leica LRF 1200 for years and it has always given me fantastic service. The new Leica 1200 CRF is even smaller, (fits in your shirt pocket) has faster readings and is waterproof. All very important features when carrying it in the field. Hope this helps! NJS
     
  4. LouBoyd

    LouBoyd Well-Known Member

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    1150 yards is equal to 1051.56 meters. I have no doubt that you had the Swarovski and the Leica set to read in yards and the Zeiss set to read in meters. How did I notice that? I've done the same thing. Most rangefinders can be set to measure either meters or yards but many don't display which they''re set to.

    My two favorite rangefinders are a Leica LRF 1200 and a Laser Technology Impulse 200XL. Max range of 1200 and 2400 yards, weight of 12 oz and 2lb 6 oz. The 200XL also measures inclination.
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  5. Broz

    Broz Well-Known Member

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    Good point. I will look into that and report.

    Thank you.

    Jeff
     
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  6. jeff 300

    jeff 300 Well-Known Member

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    how much was that Laser Technology Impulse 200XL??????????? how well does it work on animals?????????????
     
  7. MontanaRifleman

    MontanaRifleman Well-Known Member

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    Watching this thread with interest. Would like to read some more reports on the Zeiss, especially side by side comaprisons.

    -MR
     
  8. LouBoyd

    LouBoyd Well-Known Member

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    opticsplanet is a "discount distributor":
    Laser Technology Impulse 200XL Laser Rangefinders 7003555 FREE S&H 7003555. Laser Technology Range Finders.
    I bought mine used on ebay for about half that. The Impulse 2K model is the same rangefinder but without the inclinometer, PC interface, and some built in computations. Neither are designed specifically for shooting.

    I haven't even tried raniging directly to animals with the 200XL I have several rangefinders and from my early experiments found the fur or hair of most animals is a poor reflector of the 800 to 1000 nm IR light used in most civilian rangefinders. Green tree leaves are much more reflective. If the beam size is larger than than the critter or the rangfider shakes a bit it's easy to measure to something in the background by mistake. I find it's more reliable to measure to foliage near the target.
     
  9. Boss Hoss

    Boss Hoss Well-Known Member

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    Leat we forget---Beam Divergence is key here folks. The first time you try and range something where you have objects in front of the object you are ranging and the beam is too wide and gives you a reading on the closer object you will know what I am talking about..
     
  10. LouBoyd

    LouBoyd Well-Known Member

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    It's good to know what the divergence of your rangefinder actually is. You may find it in the specification sheeet, but you can actually see the beam and measure it using a night vision scope or a camera with IR capability such as one of the Sony "nightshot" cameras or most cheap black&white surveillance cameras. The beam size vs distance is not the same for all rangefinders and for many the beam is larger than game animals which might be targeted for "long range hunting". Most civilian rangefinders can be detected with a ccd camera. Most military rangefinders cannot as they typically work at wavelengths longer than the cutoff of silicon.