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Reloading
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<blockquote data-quote="Fiftydriver" data-source="post: 148461" data-attributes="member: 10"><p>4ked horn,</p><p></p><p>You are taking my comments WAY out of context here. That comment was on a topic about fireforming cases for my 338 Allen Magnum and not in reference to any smaller capacity wildcats.</p><p></p><p>When your dealing with a case capacity that uses up to 150 grains of powder you run into issues that you will not with any other smaller capacity cases even including those such as the Rigby and big Wby case.</p><p></p><p>When I build Improved rifles for customers, I always range test with live fireforming loads and I would say 75% of the time they meet or surpass my 1/2 moa accuracy requirement with fireforming loads. </p><p></p><p>I am also not a huge fan of fireforming 500 cases for a rifle. As such, if a rifle will be a high volume shooter, I generally recommend not to go with a wildcat unless its one that you can cold form cases for.</p><p></p><p>For a big game rifle or a dedicated long range rifle, 50 rounds of formed brass is plenty at any given time and as such is not a huge chore to form up this many cases.</p><p></p><p>Please to not think that I do not feel live fire fireforming is useful, that is certainly not the case by any means. With my huge 338 Allen Magnum however, there are issues with this type of case fireforming and corn meal forming produces a better result.</p><p></p><p>For the 280 AI you will get fine accuracy with fireforming loads if the chamber is set up properly with the correct 4 thou crush fit on the case.</p><p></p><p>Kirby Allen(50)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiftydriver, post: 148461, member: 10"] 4ked horn, You are taking my comments WAY out of context here. That comment was on a topic about fireforming cases for my 338 Allen Magnum and not in reference to any smaller capacity wildcats. When your dealing with a case capacity that uses up to 150 grains of powder you run into issues that you will not with any other smaller capacity cases even including those such as the Rigby and big Wby case. When I build Improved rifles for customers, I always range test with live fireforming loads and I would say 75% of the time they meet or surpass my 1/2 moa accuracy requirement with fireforming loads. I am also not a huge fan of fireforming 500 cases for a rifle. As such, if a rifle will be a high volume shooter, I generally recommend not to go with a wildcat unless its one that you can cold form cases for. For a big game rifle or a dedicated long range rifle, 50 rounds of formed brass is plenty at any given time and as such is not a huge chore to form up this many cases. Please to not think that I do not feel live fire fireforming is useful, that is certainly not the case by any means. With my huge 338 Allen Magnum however, there are issues with this type of case fireforming and corn meal forming produces a better result. For the 280 AI you will get fine accuracy with fireforming loads if the chamber is set up properly with the correct 4 thou crush fit on the case. Kirby Allen(50) [/QUOTE]
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