Opinions wanted! Mod 7 Rem, 260 or 6.5 Creedmore, 20-22"

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  1. TacBlade

    TacBlade Well-Known Member

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    I have a Mod 7 in an HS Precision stock that needs a barrel. I want a caliber that can reach out to 500ish yards for coyotes. 260 or 6.5 Creedmore or...? It has a 20" now, but I could deal with a 22". Any advice? Thanks!
     
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    436 Well-Known Member

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    Just a thought; 6XC I have one in a Weatherby MarkV Varmintmaster it's a murder stick on Yotes. It has a 26" barrel but it should work well with a 22" inch.
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  3. farout

    farout Well-Known Member

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    Either would work, no problems. That would also take bigger critters at 500 too.
     
  4. MudRunner2005

    MudRunner2005 Well-Known Member

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    You could always have the bolt face opened up to magnum size, and build a 6.5 SS (Sherman Shortmag)...

    Or, if you don't already have one, a regular old heavy-barreled .308 Win. The single most accurate rifle I ever owned was a custom .308 built off a Model 7 action with an HS Precision Pro2000 Varminter stock on it. It would literally put 3 shots in the same hole, and slightly wollar-out the edges just a little bit.
     
  5. lsm62

    lsm62 Well-Known Member

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    I recently went through the same thing. Went with the 6.5 creedmoor. After shooting it I would make the same choice again. Fantastic round.
     
  6. BrentM

    BrentM Well-Known Member

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    Man 500 yards on yotes. I have a 204 for that. 7 MOA drop from 100 zero and puts a 40gr bullet at 1800 fps and 300 lbs of energy. Lil Dogs hit the dirt with a 204 so basically anything you want will work in my opinion.

    6mm
    243
    7-08
    260
    6.5x47
    6.5 creed
    25-06
    22-250
    220 swift

    All of these are great. I depends on how much punch you want.

    I like the 260 simply due to the brass and availability of ammo etc. Short action, low recoil, and lots of data for reloading.
     
  7. TacBlade

    TacBlade Well-Known Member

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    Does the 260 have less recoil than the 6.5 Creed
     
  8. farout

    farout Well-Known Member

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    No difference in recoil to notice. Amount of recoil difference between these two rounds would depend more in the weight of the rifle they are shot from than anything else. Both are fairly mild recoiling cartridges.

    The main difference inn these two cartridges is the case. The 260 is a necked down 308 case that has been around for years. The Creed is a more modern design with a slightly shorter case that has a little less taper and a steeper shoulder angle.

    Factory ammo is easier to find for the 260 in a sporting goods store. You probably won't find Cred ammo in a store, they will most often have just the cases for reloading. The great thing about the Creed, ammo wise, is that Hornady makes some very good match grade ammo for it that is affordable. Hornady even has the load data on the box.
     
  9. Ring

    Ring Well-Known Member

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    do u reload?...

    if yes, 260, way more brass availability... in the "store" u may find some hunting loads, no match grade

    if not. 6.5cm, easier and cheaper to find factory ammo.. hornady amax store loads are great for hunting or match...
     
  10. Creedmoor shooter

    Creedmoor shooter Well-Known Member

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    Pros for the Creedmoor are shorter length that the 260 so you can have more room to play with bullet length and still fit in a short action magazine. Also great ammo available for it that doesn't break the bank. Cons, brass availability. I dont have a problem with hornady brass. But i guess alot of other people do. Its alot cheaper than say lapua brass. Now, nosler has started making brass for it and is available if one wishes to get "better" brass. And if you still want good brass and availability is low then it can be easily formed from 22-250 brass. Which is a very popular round i might add. So the nod goes to the Creedmoor which is what i shoot. I wouldnt be surprised if you will see the Creedmoor over take the 260 in the next 5-10 years. I may be wrong on that but its just a hunch.
     
  11. stomp442

    stomp442 Well-Known Member

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    I like both but I prefer the 260. There is a lot better options of brass available for the 260 and even Lapua is making brass for it now. If you can't find actual 260 brass all you have to do is neck up or down probably the most popular cartridges in existence the 243 and 308. The 260 also provides a touch more velocity than the creedmoor and I have never had any problems with seating depth of a bullet in a standard short action bolt rifle. I would also go with the 22" barrel to get the most out of the cartridge.
     
  12. Rustystud

    Rustystud Well-Known Member

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    If you are going to use a model 7 and magazine feed your COL max is 2.810".

    6.5 bullets tend to be very long.

    You might also check the velocity and foot pounds of energy at your desired distances.

    Nat Lambeth
     
  13. Cold Trigger Finger

    Cold Trigger Finger Well-Known Member

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    I've made Creedmoor brass from 308 , 260 , 243 , 250 Savage and 22/250 . It all shoots fine.. I don't know if I'm just lucky or what but I have Hornady Creedmoor brass that I have reloaded10 times and the only trimming I needed to do was 4 twists of the champfer tool. Primer pockets still Tight. . I have heard bad reviews on recent Nosler brass but I'm not sure if its Creed.
    IMO it is a better case geometry .
    But that being said, the 6.5/08 A-Square is a great round also.
    I'm getting 2958 fps with 130 gr Sirocco's with Rl 17 . From my 26" barrel but some guys are getting similar velocity from 22" barrels with the Creed.
    In the Anchorage/Valley bowl there is more Creedmoor ammo and brass available than 260 Rem.
     
  14. Creedmoor shooter

    Creedmoor shooter Well-Known Member

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    I have had similar results with Hornady creedmoor brass as well. 10- 12 reloads and still goin. Its alot cheaper than lapua or nosler brass and it works just fine. So the Brass availability excuse doesnt really work when you can form it from all the cartridges that you have mentioned.