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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Thomas" data-source="post: 544429" data-attributes="member: 15748"><p>An overly successful marketing campaign, and an overly aggressive anti-gun media campaign combined to make a perfect storm. The Black Talons were good, but nothing really out of the ordinary. They performed very uniformly in gelatin testing (and on the street), but nothing really out of line with Speer's Gold Dots, Remington's Golden Sabres or the new round that Winchester introduced to replace the Black Talons; which was essentially the same thing without the marketing hype ratcheted back a notch or two. </p><p> </p><p>Nothing about them ever penetrating body armor (which they weren't designed to do), and they weren't teflon coated; those were the old KTW rounds. Beryllium copper, teflon coated, very high velocity and yes, they were true armor piercing rounds. They were also restricted to law enforcement sales and were never released to the general public.</p><p> </p><p>Pretty good ammo, and I still have a few hundred rounds in 40 S&W and 45 ACP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Thomas, post: 544429, member: 15748"] An overly successful marketing campaign, and an overly aggressive anti-gun media campaign combined to make a perfect storm. The Black Talons were good, but nothing really out of the ordinary. They performed very uniformly in gelatin testing (and on the street), but nothing really out of line with Speer's Gold Dots, Remington's Golden Sabres or the new round that Winchester introduced to replace the Black Talons; which was essentially the same thing without the marketing hype ratcheted back a notch or two. Nothing about them ever penetrating body armor (which they weren't designed to do), and they weren't teflon coated; those were the old KTW rounds. Beryllium copper, teflon coated, very high velocity and yes, they were true armor piercing rounds. They were also restricted to law enforcement sales and were never released to the general public. Pretty good ammo, and I still have a few hundred rounds in 40 S&W and 45 ACP. [/QUOTE]
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