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Ok, Need some input on my build, please...
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<blockquote data-quote="Buffalobob" data-source="post: 126498" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>I think Roy and Kirby are trying to tell you the same thing. A 12# rifle is fine to about 1000yds for someone with decent skills but past that your gun really needs to be a dedicated long range gun unless your skills are very very good. Just shy of 1K I hit a very mature bull with the 200 gr Wildcat in about as tough of a spot as a bullet will ever hit (assuming you only take a decent shot and don't try to go the long way through) and it certainly appeared to me that even if the bullet had traveled another 500 yds before impact that it would have broken the shoulder. I asked kirby to build me a 1500 yds gun and he and I made sure that the gun was good to 1500yds. The last thing I told Kirby as I left his shop was that my skills might not be polished enough to take the gun to its limits. But I think the gun will easily go to 1500 yds and I am making plans to get more long range practice. I think it will be several years before I ask Kirby to build me a 2000 yd gun. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif </p><p></p><p>Secondly, I would agree with Roy that a quality gun whether from Kirby or Shawn is a dream to shoot. I took the load Kirby recommended and never even tested a different load. I think maybe in March or April I might work up a few loads for 160 ABs and 175 SMKs but that is more of an excuse to just shoot the gun than any real need. I may also try to see what kind of groups I can get from the gun now that the barrel has about 30-40 rounds down it and I have access to a bench instead of a cactus patch. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif</p><p></p><p>I would not disaagree with any of the 338 fans over killing power but I am a 7mm fan and I got what I "wanted" and am happy. My money and my happiness. </p><p></p><p>You can look at what I did with the 7AM and what Shawn did with the 338 Edge at very similar ranges and very similar sized animals and both of them behaved just about the same. They just don't flop right over. Shooting alone in not so great light, neither of us could see our hits. Very accurate guns and very good bullet placement but the animal just doesn't flop over. I could never have made the second shot that Shawn made but there are very few people who could. You can also read the story from Goodgrouper of the 1308yd bull and see that bull behaved the same way. Now I think GG's gun is in the weight range you are talking about but not very many of us can/do spend as much time with a gun as he and Shawn do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buffalobob, post: 126498, member: 8"] I think Roy and Kirby are trying to tell you the same thing. A 12# rifle is fine to about 1000yds for someone with decent skills but past that your gun really needs to be a dedicated long range gun unless your skills are very very good. Just shy of 1K I hit a very mature bull with the 200 gr Wildcat in about as tough of a spot as a bullet will ever hit (assuming you only take a decent shot and don't try to go the long way through) and it certainly appeared to me that even if the bullet had traveled another 500 yds before impact that it would have broken the shoulder. I asked kirby to build me a 1500 yds gun and he and I made sure that the gun was good to 1500yds. The last thing I told Kirby as I left his shop was that my skills might not be polished enough to take the gun to its limits. But I think the gun will easily go to 1500 yds and I am making plans to get more long range practice. I think it will be several years before I ask Kirby to build me a 2000 yd gun. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Secondly, I would agree with Roy that a quality gun whether from Kirby or Shawn is a dream to shoot. I took the load Kirby recommended and never even tested a different load. I think maybe in March or April I might work up a few loads for 160 ABs and 175 SMKs but that is more of an excuse to just shoot the gun than any real need. I may also try to see what kind of groups I can get from the gun now that the barrel has about 30-40 rounds down it and I have access to a bench instead of a cactus patch. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I would not disaagree with any of the 338 fans over killing power but I am a 7mm fan and I got what I "wanted" and am happy. My money and my happiness. You can look at what I did with the 7AM and what Shawn did with the 338 Edge at very similar ranges and very similar sized animals and both of them behaved just about the same. They just don't flop right over. Shooting alone in not so great light, neither of us could see our hits. Very accurate guns and very good bullet placement but the animal just doesn't flop over. I could never have made the second shot that Shawn made but there are very few people who could. You can also read the story from Goodgrouper of the 1308yd bull and see that bull behaved the same way. Now I think GG's gun is in the weight range you are talking about but not very many of us can/do spend as much time with a gun as he and Shawn do. [/QUOTE]
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